We who preach the gospel must not think of ourselves as public relations agents sent to establish good will between Christ and the world. We must not imagine ourselves commissioned to make Christ acceptable to big business, the press, the world of sports or modern education. We are not diplomats but prophets, and our message is not a compromise but an ultimatum. A.W. Tozer
Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth. --Basil of Caesarea
Once you learn to discern, there's no going back. You will begin to spot the lie everywhere it appears.

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service. 1 Timothy 1:12

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Did They Really Say That?

Christ died to make it possible for you to cease to sin, and sin is the transgression of the law. (The Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, vol. 71, no.35, p.1, 8/28/1894)
To be redeemed means to cease from sin. (The Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, vol. 77, no.39, p.1, 9/25/1900)
To every one who surrenders fully to God is given the privilege of living without sin, in obedience to the law of heaven.... God requires of us perfect obedience.  We are to purify ourselves, even as he is pure. (The Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, 9/27/1906, p.8)
These statements are teachings of Ellen G. White, Seventh-day Adventist prophet.
Does Scripture say that we are able to cease from sin? NO! Does being redeemed mean that we cease from sin?  NO!  In fact, 1 John 1:8 says, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”  Paul talked about how he did the things he didn’t want to do and didn’t do the things he wanted to do (Romans 7).  Can we attain “perfect obedience”?  NO! 2 Corinthians 7:1 says we are to strive to be completely holy, not that we will ever attain it this side of heaven.
For White to claim sinlessness she must directly contradict Scripture.  Scripture doesn’t say we will cease sinning or that we will be able to perfectly obey God this side of heaven.  What it does say is that God forgives us and “remembers our sin no more.”
It is a heretical works-oriented system that keeps its followers in such impossible bondage.


ali said...

Ellen G. White, Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Dr. Charles Stanley...

the heresy just keeps coming, but then that is what we as the born-again children of G-d should expect, we have been told in His Word; in the last day...

Let G-d arise, His enemies be scattered.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Something happened when I tried to post this comment and it disappeared, so I'm copying it from my e-mail notification:

Linda has left a new comment on your post "Did They Really Say That?":

Phew Glenn, you had me worried about you as I was reading ---thinking "this is what Glenn believes"??? And then well "Ellen G White"...

There are people in the WOF movement who honestly think because of their false teaching of "positive and negative confessions" that they should never repent of their sins anymore or that's negative. They are in such bondage...

I took one lady to the book of 1John where it says --"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us."-1 John 1:8 and "If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives."-1 John 1:10

Her retort was, Oh John was not talking to Christians. I just shake my head in sadness.

People just make theology out of one verse and build upon it their own opinions rather than giving the true meaning with the whole counsel of God's word.
Amen Romans 7~~~

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Sorry about that comment problem. If you want to repost it so that your blog link comes with your name, please do so and I'll delete my copy.


Linda said...

Oh Glenn that will be 50 lashes.

Noooooooooo dear brother, things happen and I thank you for your respect and honesty.

We know our God is in complete control and well maybe he permitted it to disappear for his purposes...

May God richly bless you with his love and grace...

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Hi Linda,
I hope those lashes will be with something soft like wet noodles! :oD

Google has a whole new format which they started last month, and I'm thinking that the way comments are moderated now that it is possible I was closer to the "delete" than to "publish" when I selected what to do. That's the only thing that makes sense, which means I have to be much more careful with my aim!

Thanks much, and have a wonderful day!!!