We who preach the gospel must not think of ourselves as public relations agents sent to establish good will between Christ and the world. We must not imagine ourselves commissioned to make Christ acceptable to big business, the press, the world of sports or modern education. We are not diplomats but prophets, and our message is not a compromise but an ultimatum. A.W. Tozer
Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth. --Basil of Caesarea
Once you learn to discern, there's no going back. You will begin to spot the lie everywhere it appears.

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service. 1 Timothy 1:12

Wednesday, October 2, 2013

Random Apostasies and Heresies

I’ve been gathering news items while waiting for a chance to sit down and share them with my readers.  Fasten your seat-belts - these things give a rough ride!

The charismatic movement thrives in Africa, and I could never understand why.  One of the sites I follow had a link to an article from July explaining the attractiveness of charismatic teaching in Africa, and I found it very interesting.

Charismaniac Cindy Jacobs grates on me - really, really grates on me.  I have a really difficult time listening to such heretics, knowing how rich they get off of their gullible followers.  Well, this article was brought to my attention, where Jacobs claims to have caused a cheek bone to regrow in seconds.  She claims all sorts of power to heal, as well as claiming to know that Satan put a tumor in her!  Too bad she has no factual evidence to back up her claims; I always wonder why her sort don’t spend time in hospitals healing people!

Another wolf is in a church in Oregon.  With the stuff he teaches, I doubt if his congregation has many sheep, but is probably full of goats.

The “Women of Faith” conferences seem to continue to add bad teachers to their line-ups.  I can’t recommend that women - or anyone for that matter - attend these things.  Especially when, like this one, they have a guest speaker like Rick Warren.  Partnering with Roma Downey really leaves them with little credibility. 

Not too many people know this about Mormons, but newlyweds are “punished” by the LDS by not being allowed to have family attend temple weddings.  On top of that, if they have a civil wedding to allow family members to attend, then they are banished from their temple wedding for a year.  Since the LDS consider such weddings to be an important step in their salvation progression, denying the temple wedding for a year could seriously affect their eternal position if they die before they have the wedding!  Of course in the real Christian faith, that is all nonsense anyway.  Just another example of legalisms in cults.

Hey, surprise, surprise!  Oprah had her mind “opened” by Rob Bell’s teachings!  She goes from one heretical idea to another, all the while propagating her New Age damnation to hundreds of thousands of viewers.  I think she is one of the most dangerous women in the world, because her teachings send people to hell.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses are another group who can’t seem to keep their teachings straight.  One of their essential doctrines concerns who the “faithful and discreet slave” is, and yet they keep changing their ideas as to their identity.  CARM has a good article about this subject, which you might want to use as ammunition for the next time JWs knock at your door!

A Methodist “pastor” claims there was no political statement meant in his church’s sign, which said, “Jesus had two dads and he turned out just fine.”  Yeah, right!  Mark Tooley examines the message of the sign.

Another good article from Hip and Thigh examining claims of the KJV Only crowd, this time about the KJV translators.


Anonymous said...

Hi Glenn,

Glad to see you "back in the saddle" with another roundup. Hope things are coming along well with your house. I have been praying.

Conrad Mbewe made some great points on how charismania has ended up so strong in Africa, didn't he? May those souls who have been deceived by the false charismatic movement, be genuinely saved!

WOF - what a disaster of a conference. I went to one many years ago and was none impressed. They've only gone from bad to worse. We women need to be exhorted with good solid teaching! Things like WOF are anything but that.

I remember learning about LDS weddings during a study on how to witness to other religions. How sad for those couples, to be denied sharing their joy with others, especially family. Sadder yet (or course) that they believe in a "different Jesus" and a "different Gospel", which cannot save.

Oprah - one of the biggest false teachers of today. Her newfound love of Rob Bell = no shock. Of course a year ago, she was linking arms with Osteen and Warren.


KJVO - one "inconvenient truth" - the apocrypha was in the original KJV. OOPS! Of course, some KJVOers will say the translators were "forced" to put it there. Really? That argument is self defeating, if you think about it. (God allowed sinful men to put non-canonical books (ie: apocrypha) in His infallible word??? Really???)

Al Mohler correctly rejects the worldview of the "four horsemen of old atheism", whose false teachings have permeated society. But for some reason, Mohler has fraternized with one of the authors of the four books that has utterly corrupted Christianity.


(The picture and felicitations between Mohler and Warren were from twitter from August 7, 2013.)

These things should not be so...


Glenn E. Chatfield said...

We are still haggling with the insurance company over their estimates for roof re-shingle and the roofer's estimates, but everything else has been approve for repairs - now we just wait for the repairs to actually take place!

Too many good teachers fraternize with Warren, and too many good pastors also promote his books. Very sad.

Anonymous said...

Hi Glenn,

Glad to hear so far that almost everything has been approved for repairing your house. Will pray for the roofing to be settled, and that all the repairs are done in a timely fashion.

You are so right, far too many good believers, including pastors and teachers, have undergone a major lapse of judgement in choosing to have an association with Warren. I do hope they repent. Giving credence to a false teacher always has bad results.


ali said...

I glean so much from your Random... posts. Thanks for all your hard work. Sadly, discernment seems to be lacking in the vast majority of the church today.

gabby said...

thought i left some questions like more than a week ago... just wondering if you got that. signed it anonymous. tnx.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...


No, I haven't seen any questions other than what has been posted.

gabby said...

About an NIV questionnaire by Rex Cobb distributed to some who attended a conference last yesr, but wc i found was in utube . Just saw ur reply but need to be rushing off now, but will try to post again, tnx.

gabby said...

Here, i've a copy of the note saved after all:

I cannot read riplinger now, and in fact gave some attention to the KJV only issue only recently. But what got my attention was a handout given my hubby from a conference. Included was the niv Bible quiz by rex l. cobb, wc I just found was on utube. Included are 25 questions, ans. of wc are said to be found in the kjv, but not the niv. At the bottom it asks “So now what do you think of your "accurate, easy to understand, up to date Bible"?”

For ex., no. 4 asks Pilate’s first name according to Mat. 27.2. No. 11 asks how many apostles were w/ Jesus according to Lk. 22.14. And 21. Copy Rom. 16.24 from the NIV.
And it said the 1611 kjv was from the Textus Receptus consisting of more than 5000 mss in 15 Biblical languages agreeing tog., w/o error or corrections in the OT or NT. Whereas the newer translations were fr. the Alexandrinus, Vaticanus and Sinaiticus w/ large portions missing incl. first 24 chaps.of Matthew in the Alexandrinus… More!

Want to read more on this, but for now, what of the 3 RC mss said to be the basis of all new translations? Can you help me w/ this. Thank you.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...


The KJVO crowd looks for trivial and insignificant differences in manuscripts, but never shows a difference in doctrine, weakening of doctrine, etc.

I don't have time or space to address all your questions on this comment string, but I can suggest you spend a lot of time on the site to which I linked so as to see all such KJVO claims debunked. You might also want to read the series I have been posting on the book, "New Age Bible Versions." In that series I am taking a chapter-by-chapter look at the claims against "new version" Bibles. I've posted up through Chapter 14, and hope to have Chapter 15 finished within a week. I think most of your questions will be answered either in that series or by searching on the link I posted.

Suffice it to say, KJVO is false teaching in and of itself.