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Do Not Denigrate the Original Languages of the Bible. One of the problems with the KJV Only cult.If you haven’t heard the speech by Harrison Butker, watch this video, then read what The Christian Post feminist commentator wrote. I agree with Butker, not what is supposed to be a Christian publication.
A Defining Moment: The REAL definition of marriage.
The Pastor Who Lied To 22 Million People? Daniel Kolenda.
Charismatic False Prophets Face Plant…Again.
Love Doesn’t Trump God’s Moral Commands.
Six reasons why you should avoid Beth Moore. And she “Denounces Southern Baptists as “Masters of Diversion” For Dealing With Women Preachers
Reasons to avoid Lori Alexander.
Five reasons to avoid Jackie Hill Perry.
Reasons why Joyce Meyer is a false teacher.
The Episcopal Church’s dive to apostasy continues deeper and quicker.
Bill Johnson and Bethel Church lies exposed.
A NEW Level of DECEPTION is here. While he gives some excellent information as to false teachers to avoid, I find Jordan to be rather juvenile with his ball cap on backwards; very distracting as he is saying, “look at me!”
Conference holders are often non-discerning when it comes to what speakers they invite, and inviting Glenn Beck is an example.
Still think The Chosen has no Mormon connection?
11 comments:
Anonymous,
Your comment is not germane to this post and you are making unsubstantiated charges against someone not associated with this blog.
Haven't looked at all the links, but of those I have:
Do Not Denigrate the Original Languages of the Bible.---this pastor is whack! To even suggest that the original languages can be subordinated to English is goofy, to say the least!
A Defining Moment---It could not be more clear and plainly presented. As David said in the comments, one must "deaden one's conscience" to ignore what is so clearly and plainly presented.
Love Doesn’t Trump God’s Moral Commands.---Also related to the previous, redefining is required to make this work. Yet, that's exactly what the alphabet mafia and their enablers do.
A NEW Level of DECEPTION is here.---I just want to say that I never understood the backward baseball cap choice. That visor is essential for me. Before I got a haircut two weeks ago, and my hair was really long, if my purpose of wearing a hat was to keep the hair out of my way, I still couldn't get behind wearing the cap backwards. It's just weird, and as you say, for a grown-a$$ man to wear it that way? Uh uh.
Still think The Chosen has no Mormon connection?---If your employer has a Dem voting employee, does that mean he has a "Democrat connection"? It was never a matter of whether or not Jenkins worked with Mormons on the project. It was how much, if any Mormon doctrine found its way into the script. I've seen three seasons of the show, and while it's not perfect and takes some liberties, I'd say it's still of value and a well done show. In particular, the value is greatly in the ability of the better educated to discuss the show with those whose interest in the faith was provoked by their viewing. Point out problems and explain why they are...using Scripture to make the point. To trash any attempt to present Scripture simply because of imperfections or liberties taken does not help anyone.
However, I do like that they are not connected with the studio funded by Mormons and hope Jenkins can continue with the series to the conclusion he had planned. I will say that due to the whining about the show, I watch out more for problems than I did before, and that enhances my personal enjoyment. Should I see anything totally abhorrent, I'll abstain.
Conference holders are often non-discerning when it comes to what speakers they invite, and inviting Glenn Beck is an example.---I didn't check out this link, but the title concerns me. If this link provides evidence that Beck is preaching falsehoods, that is indeed a problem. The key here is the point of inviting him...what was it? To teach about his Mormonism, or something else? Personally, while I don't see any possibility of a direct audience with the guy, I'd love to challenge him to explain why he chose Mormonism when there's absolutely no evidence that it's in any way true.
So, I watched the Glenn Beck bit and found it wanting.
First of all, I think the host inserted his belief about Beck into Beck's words. I don't know if Whitlock was deceived or if perhaps this host was by having a truncated version of Beck's entire talk. What's important here, however, is that his message, as presented by the snippet of his talk, was not at all a bad one. He made one mistake with regard to the "Elect" being deceived, as according to my NIV Study Bible, the verse states that false Christs and prophets will come to perform signs and miracles to deceive even the elect. This doesn't say they'll succeed in doing so, but it also doesn't suggest all of the elect will see through all of that to know they're dealing with false Christs/prophets. I would choose to believe that the elect are the elect because they wouldn't be deceived, but it's an incredible stretch to insist that because Beck reference this verse badly that it was wrong to have him speak. I wouldn't have asked him to speak at an ostensibly Christian conference, but what he said in general was not anything more than turning to Christ in hard times.
We know Morons have it all wrong about who and what Christ is. But they aren't always wrong with regard to every teaching of Scripture. Here, he's generally saying nothing unChristian, even if one isn't smitten by his talk. I mean, even if a muslim said, "turn to God", how can one be opposed? If one wished to get down in the weeds with Beck (and someone should), that's a whole different thing from allowing him to say what isn't so estranged from what a solid Christian might say.
I can fantasize about being backstage after he finished and shaking his hand while saying, "That was a great talk, Glenn. You almost sound like a Christian." and seeing what happens next.
Hello Art!
I would recommend you look on the right side labels to find "The Chosen" and look at all the articles I link to. Definitely is a Mormon connection and much blasphemy and heresy; I consider trash.
"We know Morons"-- I think you mean Mormons. Glenn Beck is not a Christian and should not be invited to a Christian conference. A conference about conservatism or politics, yes, but not about Christianity. Beck meant what he said, what the author said he said. The LDS is wrong about 95% of Scripture. If a Mormon or Muslim said "turn to God,' I can be opposed because neither one has the Judeo-Christian God.
If Beck sticks to conservative ideas, yes we can agree with him, but when he talks in any way, shape or form about Christianity, we cannot agree with him. And when he says to turn to Christ he is not talking about the Christian Christ, rather his Christ is a man born from sex between their man-god and Mary.
I don't think you know what Beck means when he says anything without him explaining it in detail. Thus, for him to pervert the meaning of a single verse in a way the verse itself could easily lead others to the same conclusion, does not in any way mean that those listening could not benefit by his message (again, going only by what was presented in your link...which I don't think was his entire speech). His message was sound for any actual Christian who has the same concerns about which he was referring. If he means a "Christ" which is not the Christ of Christianity, so what? Does that mean the message is to be a Mormon (or "Moron")? I don't think so, and I would not take it that way with the full knowledge that his idea of Christ is twisted by his Mormon indoctrination.
You seem intent on trashing every opportunity presented to you to use what is lacking to inform and educate those toward the Truth. For example, I believe the better response is as follows:
Glenn: So, how did you like Beck's speech?
Random Dude at the conference: It was great! Really moved me!
Glenn: Yeah. He almost sounded like a Christian.
RD at the C: Huh? What do you mean by that?
Glenn: Well, he's not a Christian. He's a Mormon.
RD: What's the difference?
Glenn: Got a minute? I'd like to tell you what the important difference is.
...and then you take it from there. Or, you give the guy crap and lose the opportunity. Your choice. Again, I would love a moment with Beck to respond as I did above. I don't have all the details about the fraud of Mormonism, but I know enough to ask him to fill me in and "hang himself" so to speak, providing me opportunity to encourage him to shop and compare.
I always found Beck to be...uh...different in his politics and perspectives, but not so much that I do not consider him a valuable ally. I don't about the dude in the video, but I don't believe Beck is at all insincere in his love of country and, in his corrupted way, love of his "Christ".
I've always puked a bit in my mouth any time I've heard some leftist moron suggest they know atheists or gays or whomever who act more Christian than the Christians they know. But I've been impressed with a few notable Mormons who seem really dedicated to being "good people" according to whatever the hell their religion means by that. I've never encountered a Mormon asshole...though I don't mean that to suggest none exist.
I agree that Christian conferences should restrict themselves to the most solid Christians as possible where their presence involves matters of the faith. There's confusion as to the intention of having Beck there to speak, and I don't think the host of your link has any call to suggest nefarious intention on anyone's part...especially given his lack of first hand knowledge. Jason Whitlock seems not one who lived his life as a Christian...by his own testimony. He's sincerely trying, though, from what I can tell with limited exposure to the guy. I think Beck is similar to some extent and again, I regard him as an ally to our American cause regardless of his Mormonism.
I will never say that Mormon's are Christians. That doesn't mean they have every verse wrong. To point to this one comment and from it infer bad intent is wrong.
A Christian can look at behaviors and opinions of non-Christians and find value. Doing so doesn't mean apostasy. I think you need to lighten up a bit and save your fervor for when real issues arise. The mere presence of a non-Christian at a Christian conference does not guarantee problems.
As to your links to The Chosen, I don't know how long it'll take me to go through them all. From the few I've seen you present, I find the same sort of nitpicking over minor issues which would be better addressed by merely explaining the problems with those you think might be led astray by them, if that's even happening.
I've watched the first three seasons and am looking forward to checking out the fourth, which is now available. I'm well prepared for major doctrinal errors, but I don't think Matthew presented as on the autism spectrum is one of them.
As I've said before, I enjoy the attempt to present the story in a way that is NOT solely a word-for-word re-enactment of Scripture without deviation. I like the attempt to present Christ as both man...as in, a regular guy...and the Son of God. Are we to assume He did not truly live as a man, enjoying life's little treasures? Could He not have attended the wedding at Cana and not done the Hokey-Pokey with the rest of the guests, or must we presume He was solemn and a killjoy? If He was indeed both man and God, what would that look like? This is part of what Jenkins is trying to portray and that he takes some liberties with other details does not mean he's messing with Scripture...even if he might come close to pushing a bit.
Again, this series provides us with an opportunity to speak of the faith with nominal Christians or non-Christians who are "turned on" by it. That's a good thing. I don't worry if the actors like gay people, since there's been no scenes of gay people in the presentation.
Anyway, I'll get to some of your 31 "The Chosen" posts in time. Until then, since I know no one involved with the production, I'll not regard them as a crowd of Dan Trabues until I have legit reason to do so. In the meantime, I maintain that Dallas Jenkins is doing his sincere best to provide something respectful of the source material.
Art,
When Beck speaks of religion or the Bible, he is speaking from a Mormon viewpoint, ergo what he says does not mean what Christians mean. I give no slack to those who invited him to speak at the conference. NEVER should an unbeliever be invited to speak at a Christian conference.
I understand what you are saying about your supposed conversation, but that isn't germane here. Mormons do their best to be good people because that's how they get to heaven, so, no, you won't encounter many Mormons who aren't good people. But that doesn't mean they should be speaking at a Christian conference. Becks works would deceive people into thinking he --and Mormons- are Christian.
Art,
When it comes to "The Chosen" I grant it will take awhile to go through them all. Perhaps I should get a chance to list all the problems on one post.
I wouldn't use "The Chosen" series as a means of retelling the life of Christ as recounted in the four gospels. It contains statements of a fantastical nature that go beyond what can justifiably be dubbed a paraphrase of His words or shed light on what those times were like for modern viewers. One example that comes to my mind would be Jesus saying that He is the Law of Moses. He never said anything like that, and it would have been blasphemous had He done so.
Glenn,
Thank you for posting Love Doesn’t Trump God’s Moral Commands. I have recently learned a friend has posted all over her Facebook page about celebrating anything and everything about June pride and all that goes with it. I am thinking, praying what I can do to help her see truth. This article will be a great help, as it was my conclusion that she thinks, as a Christian, we have to accept all perversions as long as people are sincere and say, “Love is foremost in how I live my life.” God defines what is really a love which glorifies Christ and how to live it out. Society has warped the definition to mean anything goes, as long as the word ‘love’ is attached.
Thank you, again.
Nelia
Nelia,
I am happy that you will be able to use the article. I posted that link (after sharing on Facebook) for that very reason -- to demonstrate to Christians that "love" doesn't mean anything must be approved or it is unloving.
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