We who preach the gospel must not think of ourselves as public relations agents sent to establish good will between Christ and the world. We must not imagine ourselves commissioned to make Christ acceptable to big business, the press, the world of sports or modern education. We are not diplomats but prophets, and our message is not a compromise but an ultimatum. A.W. Tozer
Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth. --Basil of Caesarea
Once you learn to discern, there's no going back. You will begin to spot the lie everywhere it appears.

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service. 1 Timothy 1:12

Thursday, August 1, 2019

Qualifications for Marriage?

Today is the 43rd anniversary of the day I married my wonderful wife, as well as the 45th anniversary of the day we first met.  So marriage is my topic today.

There is a Christian blogger who I think is probably about 40 years old, who has yet to marry, and, with his demands for his spouse to be he will probably NEVER marry.  Yet he often spews out requirements for spouses. I doubt if many Christian marriages would ever have taken place if we followed what he demands for a qualified mate. Let me give you some examples of his diatribes (unfortunately, too many Christians have the same ideas): 

How does a marriage happen? Basically, a marriage-minded man prepares himself for marriage by denying himself “fun” in order to position himself to be a husband and father. He studies hard STEM subjects in order to get good jobs. His resume is gap-free. He started working early, and didn’t take summers off. He saves his money. He understands beliefs that are incompatible with marriage, such as pro-abortion, pro-divorce, etc. and he is able to argue against them. When he meets a woman, he presents his preparations to her, and tries to get her to focus on behaviors that will put her on a path to becoming a wife and mother. If she follows his lead, then she becomes safe for him to marry.
Okay, this leaves me out — I was just plain un-marriageable according to him.  I enlisted in the Army before I finished high school so that I went active duty two weeks after graduation. I trained as a combat engineer and as a paratrooper and served for 4 years 8 months. During this time my goal was to eventually leave the service and get a job flying. To that end I joined the flying club and acquired a commercial pilot license with a multi-engine rating, and started on an instrument rating which I finished after leaving service. I also acquired a helicopter rating. All this time I saved virtually no money because it was mostly spent on flying lessons (not that the Army paid that much either in the early 1970s). When I left the Army at the end of February 1975 I had virtually no cash and a paid-for 1972 VW Super Beetle. Oh, and I had become a Christian just 13 months earlier! 

Out of the Army I worked six weeks as a carpenter’s apprentice at minimum wage while looking for better occupations. I left that job for twice the pay as a letter-sorting machine operator with the main Post Office in Columbus, OH, all the while seeking an aviation job. In 1976 I was laid off and had to work another part-time job just to make my rent payment, so when I got married that year I was living by the skin of my teeth — my new in-laws even paid for my tuxedo as well as the one for my best man (an Army friend).  As time went by I was finally back to full-time at the P.O. until September 1978 when I was picked up by the FAA to begin my 30-year career as an air traffic controller. 

Well, I did indeed understand the Christian faith and had already begun studying apologetics when I met my wife, so I had ONE qualification.

Women [need to] switch from non-STEM to STEM degrees. To quit easy jobs like waitress and teacher and get hard jobs like IT Project Manager or Software Engineer. To stop wasting money on thrill-seeking and instead pay off loans, then invest. To stop watching TV and movies, and start reading good non-fiction books about marriage, parenting, apologetics, economics, etc. And [be informed] about marriage related topics, e.g. – divorce, infertility, child development, homeschooling, daycare, school choice.
What about my lovely lady? Well, she only finished her second year of college towards a degree in horticulture the spring of 1976, dropping out because she wanted to “just” be a wife and mother. She had “easy” jobs working at a steak house, McDonald's, and even working for “Manpower” - an employment agency which sent people to temporary jobs. She didn’t waste money but she also didn’t have much of a savings.  She never really liked reading books, and only reads for entertainment for the most part. She was raised a Christian but had no clue about apologetics, and her education about marriage and parenting was from her own parents. Homeschooling was unknown. So with no STEM degree, I just don’t know how she was marriageable material!

So, I guess now I’ll issue my advice to women in their 20s on how to avoid being single and childless at 35.
Money gives men confidence to pull the trigger on marriage, so you should focus your efforts on men with a solid balance sheet and a gap-less resume. 
Wow, Jill was 20 when she married me and I was broke! I guess she blew it there.

Beware of men who paint a rosy picture of their finances in the future that makes you feel good, but who have not demonstrated their ability to earn or save. 
I never painted a rosy picture, but she knew my goals were in aviation, and that I would take care of her no matter what our financial situation would be.

It’s much better to focus your time on a man who can marry you right now. The best way to tell if a man is capable of marriage is not by listening to confident words, it’s by looking to see how he has prepared to perform his roles, one of which is provider.
Well, as far as she was concerned, my wife knew I could marry her when she was ready. It had nothing to do with my balance sheet, but everything to do with my character.

Be debt free. Study STEM in school, update your resume, and get a job that pays well. Jobs are not meant to be fun or fulfilling. You need to be preparing financially for marriage, and that means a normal 8-4:30 job in an office with 3% annual raises and 401K matching. 
Well, she was debt free, but there goes that STEM requirement again. She really didn’t prepare financially for marriage because when I met her she was only 18. 

Having a rationally-grounded Christian worldview is essential to the roles of wife and mother. A Christian man cannot be confident about the trustworthiness of a Christian woman’s convictions unless she demonstrates her ability to defend those convictions to non-Christians in the ordinary way that she can surely defend other truth claims in areas where she does have the knowledge. If I ask a Christian nurse to defend the claim that germs are real, she will appeal to logic and evidence. I expect her to have put in as much work into defending the claims of Christianity, and to use the same methods: logic and evidence.
Well, Jill’s state was with a very simple faith when I met her, so she failed this guy’s qualifications.  But guess what, she matured in the faith during our marriage and does a good job of defending it!

So to sum up, in this guy's ideology, to be marriageable you need a STEM degree and lots of money saved up, with a 401K, a super-mature Christian faith which can lead to apologetics battles with the best of them. Never work a low-skilled job — that’s for losers!

Okay, now let me tell you what one really needs to have as qualifications for Christian marriage:
Solid Christian faith with reliance on God to lead your life.
Good character.

Yep, that’s it. With good character both will do their best to make a good marriage, to work together providing for a family financially as well as raising children.

My wife may not have a STEM degree, but she is the most caring, compassionate, loving person I have ever known. Her character shines and she has been loved by the many elderly women she has ministered to, the younger women she has mentored, and the hundreds of children she has encountered working part-time in public schools, Sunday schools, and VBSs, as well as the many children of friends over the years.

The point of this article is to encourage you to worry more about seeking a person with good character and a strong faith than to seek a person with a huge bank account and STEM degrees. 

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Glenn,

Ok, I admit, this post had me laughing. Pretty hard. Any list of demands (STEM degree or not!) will not result in a good marriage. Maybe he should retitle it "how to stay single your entire life".

Anyhow, at least as a (professing) Christian, he's allowing for a woman to HAVE a college degree (even in a field like STEM)! Sadly, I've heard the opposite, where women who want to have or do have science, technical, or medical degrees are looked down on in churches, especially if they want to work outside the home. They're treated like they are sinning. But there is nothing wrong with being a woman believer who is a doctor, scientist, or engineer. It's as ok to do that as to be as your precious wife. Each person and each couple has freedom in the Lord to navigate their own life choices.

Anyhow, funny, the guy thinks teacher is an "easy" job. He clearly has never been a teacher himself to make such an ignorant statement. By the way, who taught him for all the years he was a student? Nice way to insult them for all the hard work they put in to educate him.

And "jobs are not meant to be fun or fulfilling"??? Wow, what a wet blanket.

You said, "Okay, now let me tell you what one really needs to have as qualifications for Christian marriage:
Solid Christian faith with reliance on God to lead your life. Good character."

Yes! I'd only add one other thought: marry someone you like. Marriage is the best friendship one could ever have (apart from friendship with Christ!). It's meant to be enjoyable and a blessing.

Congratulations and Happy Anniversary to you and Jill!!!

-Carolyn

PS: I remember a Christian blogger years ago who pointed their readers to a single Christian man's website, where he also had his "lists" of demands regarding a prospective wife and marriage. (Like you, that blogger was showing the folly of that man's comments.) Anyhow, he had this ridiculous list of high demands of the woman he would choose to marry; he expected perfection, including physical, even saying things like "no cellulite" (yes, he really said that). I was roaring in laughter reading this guy's "manifesto". Age will catch up with even the most attractive woman... has he not read Prov 31:30???


Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Carolyn,

I agree 100% that you need to marry someone you like, but that has supposedly already happened before you examine other "qualifications."

Anonymous said...

Glenn,

Oh, I see. With his demanding list, I didn't think actually *liking* the person would even count. After all, your job can't be fun or fulfilling...

:D

-Carolyn

Anonymous said...

Wonderful picture! Congratulations to you and Jill! A three stranded cord is not easily broken.... Christ holds our marriages together!

Kathryn

Martha said...

A very Blessed Wedding Anniversary to you and your beloved wife Glen! I'm so happy for you both!

My husband and I were just discussing how our society has transformed in not celebrating marriage or the family unit here in America, especially in the church, because we do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. Churches don't want to offend the divorcee population, for if they do, the "giving" decreases and they do not want that to happen because there are bigger and better buildings to build, etc.

We were a part of a marriage class many years ago, and exactly 50% of those couples ended in divorce. And ironically, those males whose marriages ended in divorce were the MOST vocal in telling the rest of us how we should conduct our marriages and raise our children. Most telling to me, was the fact that those men ruled over their wives harshly and treated women as second class citizens in the Kingdom of Jesus Christ.

Psalm 1:1 was my instruction during those classes, "Bless is the man (and woman) who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked."

The picture you posted is awesome, Glen! And great post by the way; gave me some great laughs!

Martha

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Thank you Kathryn!

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Martha,

Thanks for that personal testimony about how legalistic ideas can destroy marriages. Actually, that is the history behind Josh Harris' marriage -- and I will post a link to a good article discussing that situation in my next "roundup."

That photo is my wife's favorite from the wedding.

Jesse Albrecht said...

Okay, so I decided to do a brief net' search. Here are some educated women that this guy could potentially marry:

http://confidentchristianity.com/

http://www.spiritoferror.org/

There, problem solved! It looks to me like I have done my good deed for the day.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

I doubt if any of them would have HIM!

castiron said...

When I read your title, I thought, "Oh no! Not you too!" I thought you were going to have a list of must-haves, so thankful that I assumed wrongly. (And I only assumed since I read too fast, not your fault at all)

I used to hang out in online homeschool circles, my situation leaving me unable to have real-life fellowship at the time. But at the mention of marriage, there was so much judgment and expectations and rules and know-it-all-ness, if that's a word. The critiques and rules they were expounding clearly showed that someone like me and my husband should never have gotten married, it had failure written all over it. Two needy, broken, sinful people sharing a life, how foolish we were.

We were far from perfect, far from educated, far from prepared. Does that mean those that are hurting, the broken, the struggling don't deserve a partner to to love, to respect, to help, to hold, to learn, to have God do a mighty work in each, through each other? Marriage is only for those who arrived and have everything figured out?

I have been greatly blessed in my marriage. I came into it naive and selfish and totally unprepared but God used it to show me His grace, His power, His glory, and His kingdom. It's been tough, it's been hard. It gets harder and harder, it seems. But oh my, how God has worked in our family. He is ever-present and brings us through the storms, healing past hurts through present troubles. How gracious He is.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

castiron,

It's been a long time since hearing from you!

You and your marriage, just like mine, is exactly why people who have never married shouldn't be telling everyone who they should or shouldn't marry.

Brenda said...

Hi Glen,
I can only say, regarding our long lasting marriage, that two opposites attract. If my husband was in charge of the finances we would be broke, and if I was in charge of the mechanics the car would not start :-) Another helper would be patience. When I was younger I asked the Lord to teach me about patience. Within a very short time I was working in a care home for the elderly.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Brenda,

EXCELLENT testimony!

Anonymous said...

How on earth did Adam and Eve cope when they didn't have Tim and Beverley LaHaye to help them out and - you know - 'explain' things ? ...

Ken B