We who preach the gospel must not think of ourselves as public relations agents sent to establish good will between Christ and the world. We must not imagine ourselves commissioned to make Christ acceptable to big business, the press, the world of sports or modern education. We are not diplomats but prophets, and our message is not a compromise but an ultimatum. A.W. Tozer
Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth. --Basil of Caesarea
Once you learn to discern, there's no going back. You will begin to spot the lie everywhere it appears.

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service. 1 Timothy 1:12

Friday, May 6, 2016

Random Aberrations, Apostasies, and Heresies

Bill Randles has an examination of false prophet/Word of Faith teacher Bill Johnson.  Bill has another interesting article about how Satan hates women, which is one of the reasons for the moral downfall of our culture.

Doug Evans continues his series exposing the false teachings of IHOP.

The teachings of William Branham are examined by The Watchman Fellowship.  AND, they have a new profile on Jainism.



Fred has another episode regarding the fraud of charismania.

Jen Hatmaker seems to think she is the Messiah, or perhaps a pope!  She claims that SHE will radically change the church — for the worse, of course.  If you have a Facebook account, see what Christine Pack has to say about Jen Hatmaker.

SBC president Ronnie Floyd is getting direct revelations from God.  Yep, the same sort of direct revelations from God that SBC darling Beth Moore gets — lying imaginations.  Birds of a feather.

If that isn’t enough, another SBC favorite, Rick Warren, is also getting revelations from God!

Gary Gilley tells us about the “gospel” Rick Warren teaches.

Six years ago I wrote an article exposing the abuse, by way too many Christians, of 2 Chronicles 7:14.  Well, here we come to the annual “National Day of Prayer,” which gets major abuse of this passage, and I am thrilled to see someone else expose the nonsensical abuse of this passage.

Seems the “Holy Spirit” is doing a lot of whispering to ladies out there.  Um, I don’t think so!

Be very careful about the cats you pick up.

Kari Jobe — just another flake heretic distracting Christians from the truth.

Great satire from The Babylon Bee — and so very much on target!

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Kari Jobe - was at a church that used her music a lot. We didn't care for it. The lyrics were pretty vacuous. So not shocked that her theology isn't right, either.

-Carolyn

Philip said...

You do keep on top of so much, Glenn. Have you found ways of doubling the time available!

Under the section on false teachers on Rob Bell the writer affirms (rightly) that we must turn to Christ for the forgiveness of sins, but uses Matthew 25 to prove it. The writer may view themselves as conservative but to take one verse from a long parable which doesn't talk in those terms is a liberal approach. There are passages to quote certainly but Jesus was obviously saying something about the sick imprisoned etc in this text rather then turn to me for forgiveness.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Philip,

You misunderstood the paragraph which used that passage. That was part of the proof of the existence of hell. Matt 25:46 speaks of the punishment as being eternal.

Philip said...

With respect Glenn I do understand that, yes it does speak of hell as eternal but is still a misuse of a verse of scripture when it tries to claim things specifically within that passage that aren't there, and that is the heart of a liberal faith. All those who do not turn to Christ for the forgiveness of sins will be sent there for all eternity is what is claimed, and whilst I can accept this Matthew 25 does not say this, so to try and claim this is error.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Philip,

Here is the statement:
The Bible teaches there is a hell, and yes, all those who did not believe in Christ for the forgiveness of sins will be sent there for all eternity (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10, 15). Jesus talked more on the subject of hell than did any other figure in the Bible combined. It's a pretty important subject.

Matthew 25:46 supports this statement in that it describes the punishment as eternal. It was not used to support anything else.

Philip said...

I would say that the scriptures should not be a text to be used to support statements but that we should be led by them. What you quote specifically says that all those who do not believe in Christ, and that is NOT what Matthew 25 is about. I cannot see why you as a man of honour are willing to stand beside a misuse of scripture. I have little else to say but I consider this a way of using the bible to support a case which is precisely the wrong way round and is, as I say, the heart of liberalism.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Philip,

Can you please demonstrate to me where we are not to use Scripture to support teachings? All this time I was under the impression that using Scripture was the proper way to support teachings.

Again, you are claiming Matt. 25:46 was used for supporting a statement that it was not used for supporting. It was used only as a supporting Scripture for the statement that Hell is a place of eternal punishment ("for all eternity") (as stated also in Rev. 20:10, also cited). CONTEXT!

Besides, who ends up in hell but those who do not believe in Christ? (as noted by ref to Rev. 20:15)

Philip said...

I've re-read what I said and whilst I stand by the salient point I overstepped the mark by questioning you as a man of honour. I apologize but you must understand that if I believe scripture is being used wrongly, then I speak out. And that will conclude my remarks on the matter.

Philip said...

Ok I said it was my final remarks. But to finally reflect on your question. Sola scripture.I do not look for scripture to support my teaching, but have no teaching beyond scripture. And for your last question. Matthew 25 answers that question- those who have not fed the hungry, visited the prisoner, or sick etc. Not all there is to the biblical teaching on hell I would agree, but it would be folly to ignore this passage. And there I will, you may be relieved to know, conclude my thoughts. Bless you.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Philip,

You say you believe the scripture to be used wrongly, but I PROVED it was used properly — and yet you continue to defend your position regardless of the proof provided that you are in error.

You are playing with words. EVERYONE uses Scripture to support their teaching. Our teachings are essentially commentaries on Scripture. Every doctrine promote uses Scripture to back it up. We all teach Scripture, but we don’t just cite Scripture as our teachings. When a pastor gives a sermon, he uses Scripture to back up all his points.

You say you have no teaching beyond Scripture all the while trying to use Scripture to support your claim that the person citing Scripture used it wrongly!

The passage at issue was only used to support the fact that Hell is an eternal punishment, contradicting the teaching of Rob Bell. There was no misuse of that passage in any way. Period.