It is imperative to recognize that John 6 does not deal directly with the Last Supper, or with the breaking of the bread. That’s worth repeating. John chapter 6 has nothing to do with the Last Supper! … John deals with the Last Supper starting in chapter 13, but chapter 6 is a separate subject. In chapter 6, Jesus never even alludes to a procedure to follow concerning the Communion meal, nor does He tell His disciples to institute a priesthood that will consecrate bread and turn it into his literal flesh. Nor does He teach here, or anywhere in the Bible, to worship His body and blood under the appearance of bread.
Roger Oakland with Jim Tetlow, Another Jesus? The Eucharistic Christ and the New Evangelization, pg. 47, 48
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ReplyDeleteJesse,
ReplyDeleteNo, the themes are only related in that he refers to bread as being analogous to himself in both places. But the context of the first has nothing to do with the context of the second. John 6 has absolutely nothing to do with the last supper. Catholics have to grab it to apply to it so as to fit their idolatry of the Mass.
And your link is gone.
I just tried the link and it worked.
ReplyDeleteDon't know what happened, but it works now. Good article!
ReplyDeleteJohn 6:63, Jesus explains that He is speaking spiritually, not literally. :) And of course the book of Hebrews makes it abundantly clear that Jesus sacrificed Himself ONE time for ALL sin.
ReplyDeleteAlways a good Scripture passage to clarify. Thanks Glenn, and Jesse.
-Carolyn
Anonymous Papist,
ReplyDeleteYou really need to give it up and troll elsewhere. Your comments will not be published.
Oakland and Tetlow do indeed fully understand the Papist idolatry of the Mass/eucharist, so you libel them by claiming otherwise. They do not “bash” papism, they expose it for what it is. And the early “church fathers” show no mention of pretending that the eucharist is literally Jesus’ blood and body, so you libel them also.
We fully understand the Mariolatry of Papism, as you can read in my article here:
https://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/06/mary-mother-of-church-is-not-mary-of.html
And “Tradition” as Rome teaches it is totally unbiblical, as I demonstrate here:
https://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2017/05/rome-and-tradition.html
The Lord has “manifested” himself through Scripture, and not ongoing revelation to the Papist church. Try reading your Bible without the assistance of Papist doctrines.
Anonymous Papist Troll,
ReplyDeleteYou prove your argument is bad when you resort to nasty name-calling. Too funny!
"[John] 6:63 Spirit...flesh...words. When Jesus has ascended where He was before, He will bestow the Spirit on those who believe in Him (7:39). The Spirit will lead those who believe into all truth (16:13); He will enable the believer to apprehend that the flesh of Jesus, which in itself is of no more avail than any human flesh, is the sacrifice of the Lamb of God, given for the life of the world (6:51). The Spirit will recall and confirm in the believer the words of Jesus which gave His flesh this significance and power (14:26); thus the Spirit will give life."
ReplyDeleteMartin Franzmann, Concordia Self-study Commentary [commentary on John], p. 92