<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903</id><updated>2012-01-27T17:03:15.560-06:00</updated><category term='Word of Faith'/><category term='False Teachers'/><category term='Philip Yancey'/><category term='Bruce Wilkinson'/><category term='Moody Bible Institute'/><category term='Church of the Nazarene'/><category term='Apologetics'/><category term='Glenn Beck'/><category term='Beth Moore'/><category term='Liberal Theology'/><category term='Pornography'/><category term='Bible Versions'/><category term='Joyce Meyer'/><category term='Book Reviews'/><category term='Methodist Church'/><category term='British churches'/><category term='Focus on the Family'/><category term='Living Stream Ministry'/><category term='IHOP'/><category term='Unity'/><category term='Seventh-day Adventist'/><category term='Idols'/><category term='About Me'/><category term='T.D. 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Tozer'/><category term='Virgin Mary'/><category term='Lucifer'/><category term='Anglican Church'/><category term='Social Gospel'/><category term='Christian living'/><category term='Market-Driven'/><category term='Apostasy'/><title type='text'>The Watchman's Bagpipes</title><subtitle type='html'>Thoughts from the Christian perspective: discernment issues as they relate to the current state of the church and society.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>367</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-6553725971688235362</id><published>2012-01-26T12:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T12:34:38.880-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='A.W. Tozer'/><title type='text'>Entertainment in the Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I originally posted this a few months after starting the blog.&amp;nbsp; I thought it was time to repost.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;+++++++&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;So many churches nowadays are following methods promoted by “seeker sensitive,” “market driven,” “purpose driven,” and even the emergent churches, that we are encountering a lot of entertainment-oriented services which have often completely changed the gospel message. Although this entertainment-oriented ideology is pervasive in the church today, it really isn’t new. &amp;nbsp;The following commentary is by A.W. Tozer:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;For centuries the Church has stood solidly against every form of worldly entertainment, recognizing it for what it was - a device for wasting time, a refuge from the disturbing voice of conscience, a scheme to divert attention from moral accountability. For this she got herself abused roundly by the sons of the world. But of late she has become tired of the abuse and has given over the struggle. She appears to have decided that if she cannot conquer the great god Entertainment she may as well join forces with him and make what use she can of his powers. So today we have the astonishing spectacle of millions of dollars being poured into the unholy job of providing earthly entertainment for the so-called sons of heaven. Religious entertainment is in many places rapidly crowding out the serious things of God. Many churches these days have become little more than poor theatres where fifth-rate “producers” peddle their shoddy wares with the approval of evangelical leaders who can even quote a holy text in defense of their delinquency. And hardly a man dares raise his voice against it. … The great god Entertainment amuses his devotees mainly by telling them stories. The love of stories, which is characteristic of childhood, has taken fast hold of the minds of the retarded saints of our day, so much so that not a few persons manage to make a comfortable living by spinning yarns and serving them up in various disguises to church people. What is natural and beautiful in a child may be shocking when it persists into adulthood, and more so when it appears in the sanctuary and seeks to pass for true religion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-6553725971688235362?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/6553725971688235362/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=6553725971688235362' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/6553725971688235362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/6553725971688235362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/entertainment-in-church.html' title='Entertainment in the Church'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4947391172102650812</id><published>2012-01-25T10:51:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-25T10:52:27.308-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mormonism'/><title type='text'>Did They Really Say That?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 64px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;?!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #1666f9; font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The fall of Adam and Eve was no tragedy.&amp;nbsp; It was a blessing in disguise, for without it non of us would have been born, since Adam and Eve, in their original state, were not able to have children, as the Book of Mormon explains.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Mark E. Petersen, &lt;i&gt;Adam: Who Is He?&lt;/i&gt; p.4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;So the Fall was not a tragedy?&amp;nbsp; Scripture says it was a great tragedy, for by the sin of Adam sin came into the world and the world itself became corrupted.&amp;nbsp; And if Adam and Eve were not able to have children before the Fall, why were they commanded to “be fruitful and multiplay” at their creation?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This is but another blatant example of how the teachings of Mormonism are not in line with the Bible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4947391172102650812?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4947391172102650812/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4947391172102650812' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4947391172102650812'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4947391172102650812'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/fall-of-adam-and-eve-was-no-tragedy.html' title='Did They Really Say That?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4720877492683391336</id><published>2012-01-24T13:10:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T13:12:03.427-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='T.D. Jakes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marriage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mormonism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Steven Furtick'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Methodist Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity Today'/><title type='text'>Random Apologetics News</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The last time I posted a “random” collection a commenter asked if the post was meant as satire or if it was serious.&amp;nbsp; I was at sort of a loss how anyone could see these posts as satire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The purpose of my “random” posts is to highlight some of the many articles I have read over a particular period, for which I don’t have time to write my own articles about.&amp;nbsp; I feel the issues are important, however, and that the body of Christ should be aware of the false teachings that are corrupting the Church.&amp;nbsp; And there are also times when I find articles which are very thought-provoking in ways of edification.&amp;nbsp; While there may be an occasional satirical article among them (such as the one showing Benny Hinn as a Dark Lord), the posts themselves are not intended to be humor.&amp;nbsp; I got the idea from a fellow blogger who does a “Roundup,” but I got my idea for a title from Thomas Sowell (a brilliant commentator) who writes an occasional “Random Thoughts From the Passing Scene.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;That being said, it has been 10 days since my last “Random” post, and I have come across so many things which I think are important to be aware of, that this may be my longest “Random” collection.&amp;nbsp; Let us proceed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I have previously pointed out that John Hagee is a false teacher.&amp;nbsp; Another example is that he &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/15/wretched-mormon-glenn-beck-preaches-at-john-hagees-church/"&gt;allowed the MORMON Glenn Beck to preach at his church!&lt;/a&gt;!&amp;nbsp; Mormons are NOT Christians!! &amp;nbsp; To treat Beck as a Christian and let him teach in a Christian church is unconscionable!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;I have had posts in the past about how Joel Osteen is a rank heretic.&amp;nbsp; During the last election for President, I had to do an article on Osteen’s claim that the Mormon god was the same as the Christian God.&amp;nbsp; Well, he’s done it again!&amp;nbsp; Osteen just doesn’t have a clue!!!&amp;nbsp; A CBS headline reads: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505270_162-57359651/osteen-romney-believer-in-christ-like-me/"&gt;“Osteen: Romney ‘believer in Christ, like me.’”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;As seen&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8JR4TK5viQ&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;, this makes apologetics ministries have to work harder for damage control to show the world - and other Christians - that Mormonism is NOT just another denomination.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;While still on the subject of Mormonsim, Janis Hutchinson has a good &lt;a href="http://www.janishutchinson.com/stories/strategies.pdf"&gt;article explaining the newer strategies of the LDS&lt;/a&gt; for gaining followers.&amp;nbsp; Very deceitful, of course. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Meanwhile, I came across an&lt;a href="http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/2012/01/24/feelings-feelings-feelings/"&gt; interesting video&lt;/a&gt; showing how the Mormon faith is all based on feelings.&amp;nbsp; It’s a slick advertisement for the church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Neil over at &lt;i&gt;Eternity Matters&lt;/i&gt; has a &lt;a href="http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-state-of-the-methodists/"&gt;good post explaining the further descent of the United Methodist Church into apostasy&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I’ve exposed the UMC in the past, so this isn’t new to me.&amp;nbsp; If you are in a UMC church, if you are not fighting this - why not?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Corporal punishment is one of those areas which should be a Romans 14 issue as to whether we should or should not use it.&amp;nbsp; HOWEVER, it is certainly a biblical method of punishment.&amp;nbsp; The problem is the abuse of such punishment by people such as Mike and Debi Pearl and the way they teach it.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/i&gt; (or should I say &lt;i&gt;Christianity &lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Astray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;?) has decided to &lt;a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/christianity-today-goes-on-the-record-against-spanking/"&gt;go on record as being against spanking&lt;/a&gt; due to twisted hermeneutics.&amp;nbsp; If you don’t like spanking, don’t do it, but don’t say it is unbiblical!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Hippolytus has posted &lt;a href="http://exdead.blogspot.com/2012/01/sayers-on-christianity.html"&gt;an excellent short article by Dorothy Sayers&lt;/a&gt; about the state of church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There is an excellent site by those who have left Gothardism (IBLP/ATI) where they share their experiences while in that legalistic and cultic environment.&amp;nbsp; Last week there was an article using the movie &lt;i&gt;Tangled&lt;/i&gt; as an analogy.&amp;nbsp; We loved that movie, and we also saw the analogy of a relationship in which our adult children are involved.&amp;nbsp; I recommend&lt;a href="http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2012/01/thoughts-on-tangled/"&gt; this thought-provoking article.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Jerry Wragg over at The Cripplegate has an excellent 3-part series addressing the current fad of unsavory preaching and writing about all things sexual by certain “pastors.”&amp;nbsp; Wragg’s series gives some good analysis of the problems with this ideology, as well as great responses to claims made about the importance of their unsavory teaching.&amp;nbsp; Read parts &lt;a href="http://thecripplegate.com/of-straw-men-and-shameful-speech/"&gt;one&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thecripplegate.com/of-straw-men-and-shameful-speech-part-2/"&gt;two&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thecripplegate.com/of-straw-men-and-shameful-speech-part-3/"&gt;three&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Jackie Alnor alerts us to &lt;a href="http://rrrapostasyalert.blogspot.com/2012/01/january-20-2012-show-my-perspective-on.html"&gt;a situation in Calvary Chapel&lt;/a&gt;, where pastor Don Stewart has continued his position in spite of a divorce (in which apparently he was the guilty party) and remarriage.&amp;nbsp; This is the type of situation which brings shame to the church.&amp;nbsp; Apparently, Calvary Chapel has no intention of removing Don from his position.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;One thing I get tire of hearing from the liberals who claim the name of Christ, let alone the non-believers, is that “Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.”&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Stand to Reason&lt;/i&gt; blog gives&lt;a href="http://str.typepad.com/weblog/2012/01/did-jesus-never-say-anything-about-homosexuality.html"&gt; a good response&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The aberrational man-made &lt;i&gt;Code Orange Revival&lt;/i&gt; is the big talk on many apologetics sites.&amp;nbsp; As with all the man-made revivals over the years, there is nothing of substance in any of them.&amp;nbsp; One of the surprising things is that this so-called evangelical revival &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/20/t-d-jakes-is-heretical-concerning-modalism-whether-he-believes-it-or-not/"&gt;headlines the heretic modalist T.D. Jakes.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;James MacDonald, who used to be pretty solid as a teacher, is part of the COR and &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/21/did-james-macdonald-learn-a-ton-from-t-d-jakes/"&gt;claims he learned “a ton” from T.D&lt;/a&gt;. - okaaaaayyyy. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;However, I think if anyone reads &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/22/a-review-of-t-d-jakes-code-orange-revival-sermon/"&gt;this story about T.D. Jake’s COR sermon&lt;/a&gt;, they’d be scratching their heads at just what it is they are supposed to learn! &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Erin has an &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2012/01/code-orange-revival-recap.html"&gt;excellent recap of the 12 days of COR&lt;/a&gt;, demonstrating how man-centered the event was. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Goatherd Steve Furtick, who is behind COR,&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/22/word-faith-pastrix-christine-caine-preaches-sunday-morning-sermon-for-steven-furtick/"&gt; let a WOF woman, Christine Caine, preach a sermon&lt;/a&gt; in his “Elevation Church” last week.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Well, Phil Johnson speaks to the issue of these celebrity “pastors” in a &lt;a href="http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/celebrity-christians/"&gt;40-minute interview &lt;/a&gt;which would be well worth your time to view.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And, finally, if you want satire, Ken Silva has posted &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/17/poprah/"&gt;a photo to give you a chuckle&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And he posted another &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/23/apprising-exclusive-photo-of-spirit-moving-at-code-orange-revival/"&gt;that is scary - albeit true.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4720877492683391336?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4720877492683391336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4720877492683391336' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4720877492683391336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4720877492683391336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/random-apologetics-news.html' title='Random Apologetics News'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-293902751052437757</id><published>2012-01-23T18:40:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T19:13:44.154-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='State of the Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='discipleship'/><title type='text'>Two Dangers to the Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There are many dangers to the Church today, the main one of which is false teaching corrupting it from within and without.&amp;nbsp; However, I think there are two other deadly dangers which severely damage the church and its message: legalism and syncretism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now there are four main understandings about legalism, some of which include false teachings:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Keeping the law as a means of salvation. (e.g. Rom. 3:28; Gal. 2:16)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Keeping the law’s letter without keeping its “spirit.”&amp;nbsp; (e.g. Mk. 2:23-3:6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; Building a “fence” of unnecessary, extra-biblical laws around Biblical laws. (e.g. Matt. 15:3-9; 23:16-24).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; Imposing obsolete, O.T. requirements on N.T. believers. (e.g. Rom. 14:1-23; Heb.8:13)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now, it is easy to see how false teachings under these standards can be fairly easily seen.&amp;nbsp; But what about what is sometimes called “judgmentalism”? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Chuck Swindoll had a good description in his book, &lt;i&gt;Grace Awakening&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; He said, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Legalism is an attitude, a mentality based on pride.&amp;nbsp; It is an obsessive conformity to an artificial standard for the purpose of exalting oneself… Legalism says, ‘I do this or I don’t do that, and therefore I am pleasing to God.’”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It is one thing for this attitude to be focussed on oneself, but it is another thing when directed at those in the church.&amp;nbsp; I have known of “seekers” who have quit going to church for this reason; I know of many people who were new/immature believers who quit attending church for this reason.&amp;nbsp; Both type have a bad taste left in their mouths. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Let me give some examples as to what I’m referring here:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A young man has tattoos or earrings and is condemned, or just snubbed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A single mom is condemned for promiscuity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;People are condemned for how they are dressed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;People are condemned for unbiblical beliefs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Women condemned for short hair, men condemned for long hair.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A person with yard gnomes is told they are idols and they shouldn’t have them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think you get the picture.&amp;nbsp; Seekers may have a lot of unholy fashions, language, ideas, etc., which need to be dealt with in love and compassion as they are led to understanding their need of a Savior.&amp;nbsp; New believers may have bodily reminders of a life before they were saved and need reassurance that the sins which led to those decisions are forgiven.&amp;nbsp; New/immature believers need solid biblical instruction and discipleship to help them learn why some of the stuff they believe is incorrect.&amp;nbsp; New/immature believers need counsel if their fashions are immodest.&amp;nbsp; Other things are Romans 14 issues which need to be let alone rather than judging the person for their beliefs and practices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now let’s look at syncretism.&amp;nbsp; This again can have many connotations, such as the Emergent movement’s bringing in contemplative prayer and other Catholic mysticism, or &amp;nbsp; such as the new movement known as “Chrislam.”&amp;nbsp; Others of this type try to meld with pagan belief systems such as various American Indian beliefs or even Hinduism.&amp;nbsp; Movements which bring in this type of heresy as part of their syncretism are, again, easy to point out as the false teaching which they are. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The subtle syncretism is more serious because it weakens the message of the Gospel while not being as readily discernible, and can very well eventually lead the assembly into apostasy and even heresy.&amp;nbsp; These types of ideas which are syncretized have more to do with the ideology of the world.&amp;nbsp; Here are some examples:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;1. The “social gospel” is one of the worst, and may not even be considered syncretism, rather it is really a separate system completely distorting the gospel message.&amp;nbsp; However, often just aspects of this system are syncretized into an otherwise fundamental assembly, and while not distorting the Gospel, it weakens it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;2. Pop-psychology is an insidious movement easily syncretized with Christianity because we have all been brainwashed into accepting its precepts.&amp;nbsp; So-called “Christian psychologists” such as James Dobson, Larry Crabb, et al are guilty of this type of syncretizing.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes Bible teachers also bring in this type of teaching, as I have demonstrated in my articles on Beth Moore’s studies.&amp;nbsp; Many of the programs for church youth groups are rife with pop-psychology, leading to the “dumbing down” of our youth.&amp;nbsp; An excellent book on this subject is &lt;i&gt;Spiritual Junk Food&lt;/i&gt;, by Cathy Mickels &amp;amp; Audrey McKeever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;3. Bringing in the world’s culture, including its entertainment methods is really nothing more than syncretizing Christianity with the culture around us.&amp;nbsp; And the culture selected is often self-focused.&amp;nbsp; When a worship service seems to be no different than a rock concert, then the culture has been syncretized into that service.&amp;nbsp; “Seeker-sensitive” assemblies are guilty of this carnage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Of these two dangers, it’s sometimes difficult to decide which is worse.&amp;nbsp; Legalism can prevent people from coming to the Lord as well as chase immature believers into isolation so they can’t grow in their faith.&amp;nbsp; Possibly syncretization is the worst because it waters down the Gospel message and dumbs down the members of the assembly, leaving solid meat in the dust.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Either way, I have known people spiritually harmed by both.&amp;nbsp; Do you have observations of&amp;nbsp; these two dangers and which you’d consider worse?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-293902751052437757?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/293902751052437757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=293902751052437757' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/293902751052437757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/293902751052437757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/two-dangers-to-church.html' title='Two Dangers to the Church'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-6700791635343335428</id><published>2012-01-18T11:18:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T11:18:23.992-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><title type='text'>Error May Be Subtle</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BXJRu_9DVFQ/Txb-WQGsxJI/AAAAAAAACqQ/84I7Qb-S1qs/s1600/truth+line.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BXJRu_9DVFQ/Txb-WQGsxJI/AAAAAAAACqQ/84I7Qb-S1qs/s400/truth+line.jpg" width="318" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Cleaning out my files this week I came across this drawing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I have no idea when or where it came from.&amp;nbsp; All I know is that I was somewhere listening to some teacher who had this drawing and I copied it because I thought it was a good visual aid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The point is that false teachings are often very subtle because they cross back and forth over truth.&amp;nbsp; All cults and false teachers have some truth in their teachings, which makes discernment of the utmost importance.&amp;nbsp; Often it is the true parts of their teachings that draws people unwittingly into the false, not being able to discern where the line was crossed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;An example would be Mormonism when they speak of God, Jesus, salvation, atonement, etc.&amp;nbsp; The words themselves can be true descriptions of Christian theology, but the Mormon definitions are not in accordance with Scripture and are false teachings,&amp;nbsp; only picking up the truth of the words as they cross the line of truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Roman Catholicism has much more truth than the LDS, of course, because Rome is a true Christian faith which has added much aberration and heresy to burden the Catholic faithful.&amp;nbsp; They actually have a truth line which makes the criss-crossing of it with their false teachings all the more difficult to discern.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It is important for every Christian to be continually in the Word of God so that the line we follow is the true path, and so that we will be able to recognize the false teachings whenever they cross our line.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-6700791635343335428?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/6700791635343335428/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=6700791635343335428' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/6700791635343335428'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/6700791635343335428'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/error-may-be-subtle.html' title='Error May Be Subtle'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BXJRu_9DVFQ/Txb-WQGsxJI/AAAAAAAACqQ/84I7Qb-S1qs/s72-c/truth+line.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4860813690912913215</id><published>2012-01-17T11:58:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T11:58:55.524-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><title type='text'>Discernment Thoughts from Martin Luther</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This is our foundation:&amp;nbsp; where the Holy Scripture establishes something that must be believed, there we must not deviate from the words, as they sound, neither from the order as it stands, unless an express article of faith (based on clear Scripture passages) compels us to interpret the words otherwise, or arrange them differently.&amp;nbsp; Else what would become of the Bible?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Martin Luther (cited by Dick Fischer in &lt;i&gt;The Origins Solution&lt;/i&gt;, p. 96)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;In philosophy a small error in the beginning leads to a very large error at the end.&amp;nbsp; So in theology a small error overturns the whole doctrine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Martin Luther (cited by Jean S. Carton in &lt;i&gt;Who Broke the Baby&lt;/i&gt;, p.45)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4860813690912913215?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4860813690912913215/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4860813690912913215' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4860813690912913215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4860813690912913215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/discernment-thoughts-from-martin-luther.html' title='Discernment Thoughts from Martin Luther'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-5292802612762349546</id><published>2012-01-16T17:44:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-16T17:44:02.822-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><title type='text'>Investigate Religious Beliefs</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;"The subject of eternity is of infinite moment to all; and each individual has sufficient capacity to embrace truth instead of error, provided the due exercises of the faculties are instituted.&amp;nbsp; Then, when any subject is presented to us in the garb of religion, we ought carefully investigate it, and compare it with the standard which should be our rule of faith and practice.... If any doubts hang over the subject, it is reasonable that a scrupulous search, and a critical enquiry be instituted by us."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;E.D. Howe, Mormonism Unvailed, p. 37-38&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-5292802612762349546?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/5292802612762349546/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=5292802612762349546' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5292802612762349546'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5292802612762349546'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/investigate-religious-beliefs.html' title='Investigate Religious Beliefs'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4069384606752539175</id><published>2012-01-15T18:44:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-20T14:52:21.924-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible Versions'/><title type='text'>Marketing God’s Word</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Just when you get to thinking that there is nothing else they can do to the Bible to provide more income for the publishers, out comes a new one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There are Bibles out there in just about every design possible, and today I even saw a “clutch purse” version called - appropriately - the “Clutch.”&amp;nbsp; Study Bibles, Charismatic Bibles, teen Bibles, children’s Bibles, etc, etc, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Now we have “&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt;.”&amp;nbsp; The advertisement tells us, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt; was created to turn everyday people into devoted Bible readers - pastors tell us it’s working!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; Essentially a chronological Bible, it uses the NIV translation in a condensed version.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I looked at one at Barnes &amp;amp; Nobel today as I shopped for a particular book, and could see no benefit.&amp;nbsp; The publishers are always looking for more ways to get rich off of God’s Word, and suckers oblige them by the minute.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I guess I want to know why we need another chronological version.&amp;nbsp; Back in 1993 I purchased “&lt;i&gt;The Gospels Interwoven&lt;/i&gt;,” which had been out since 1987, and it is a chronological version of the Gospels using the NIV.&amp;nbsp; It was such an interesting way to read Scripture that in 1996 I picked up a copy of “&lt;i&gt;The Narrated Bible in Chronological Order,&lt;/i&gt;” also using the NIV.&amp;nbsp; It is copyright 1984 and I have still seen it in Christian book stores as late as last year!&amp;nbsp; So if a person wants a chronological version, why not just get that one?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;OH, that’s right; we must dumb down our translations to make them appealing as a book, which is why &lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt; is a condensed version - sort of like a “Reader’s Digest” condensed book.&amp;nbsp; Of course it includes &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“a timeline, maps and charts, character sketches, discussion questions, and an epilogue.”&lt;/span&gt; &amp;nbsp; Boy, am I glad it has an epilogue!&amp;nbsp; But the text itself has been altered: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“It’s almost entirely Scripture.&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And don’t think Zondervan stopped with just the book; marketing this sort of commodity takes imagination to garner the most gold from the world.&amp;nbsp; Here are some products of “&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt;” for your purchasing pleasure:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt; Audio CD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt; Curriculum DVD and Participant’s Guide (Adult small group curriculum).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story: Teen Edition&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #1666f9;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;with features designed to resonate with teens,”&lt;/span&gt; including &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“fun flip animation on each page.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Teen curriculum DVD (companion to the Teen Edition)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story for Kids&lt;/i&gt;, this time using the dumbed-down NIrV.&amp;nbsp; This is so &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“kids can discover God’s great love story.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“&lt;i&gt;The Story for Kids: Later Elementary Curriculum&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; with CD-ROM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“&lt;i&gt;The Story Trading Cards&lt;/i&gt;: Elementary”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“&lt;i&gt;The Story for Little Ones&lt;/i&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“The Story for Little Ones: Preschool curriculum with CD-ROM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“&lt;i&gt;The Story Trading Cards&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;i&gt;Preschool&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Don’t forget that you can &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Help your church grow and have a greater impact”&lt;/span&gt; if you purchase their “Church Campaign Kit” for a limited-time offer of $149.99 (normally $300).&amp;nbsp; This kit includes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt;, NIV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Heart of the Story&lt;/i&gt;, by Randy Frazee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt; Curriculum DVD and Participant’s Guide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story for Teens&lt;/i&gt; and DVD Curriculum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story for Kids&lt;/i&gt;, Ages 9-12, and CD-ROM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story for Children,&lt;/i&gt; Ages 6-8, and CD-ROM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story for Little Ones&lt;/i&gt;, Ages 5 and under, and CD-ROM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Two packs of The Story Trading Cards&lt;/i&gt;: Elementary Age and Pre-school age.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Implementation Guide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Resource DVD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Online access to Resource Library&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Did you notice the &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;“Implementation Guide”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;?&amp;nbsp; Looks like they want to implement &lt;i&gt;The Story &lt;/i&gt;as the only version for use in your church!&amp;nbsp; After all, you can’t just have people here and there using this version; we need curriculum for indoctrinating all ages into a dumbed-down version of the Bible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Then we have also available:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Exploring the Story&lt;/i&gt;, by Adam T. Barr.&amp;nbsp; This is &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“A Reference Companion”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Heart of the Story, &lt;/i&gt;by Randy Frazee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Story of Jesus&lt;/i&gt;, NIV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Finally, if you order $250 or more worth of &lt;i&gt;The Story&lt;/i&gt; merchandise, they will send you free of charge Max Locado’s “&lt;i&gt;God’s Story, Your Story,”&lt;/i&gt; billed as a &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Six-session Church Campaign and Small Group Curriculum.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; This set includes,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;“God’s Story, Your Story”&lt;/i&gt; in hardcover&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;DVD with video teachings, sermon resources and promotional material&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Participant’s Guide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Getting Started Guide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;All this information is in a Zondervan catalog I received in the mail.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;So why do we need this Bible version?&amp;nbsp; Are our pastors and teachers that lacking in ability to teach from the Word of God without curriculums and programs?&amp;nbsp; Isn’t the NIV readable enough as it is that it doesn’t need to be made into gimmicks to draw an audience?&amp;nbsp; How in the world were we able to reach people, including the youth, in times past without all the new gimmicks?&amp;nbsp; Cultures change, but people don’t, so what purpose does this version serve other than to bring more gold into Zondervan’s till?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Well, I guess I’d much rather see this one in public instead of “&lt;i&gt;The Message.&lt;/i&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4069384606752539175?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4069384606752539175/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4069384606752539175' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4069384606752539175'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4069384606752539175'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/marketing-gods-word.html' title='Marketing God’s Word'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-6142189937873320427</id><published>2012-01-14T15:13:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T15:13:21.865-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Purity movement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apostasy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Methodist Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Book Reviews'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Beth Moore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='James MacDonald'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Roman Catholicism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Young'/><title type='text'>Random Apostasies and Heresies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;More information about the “Code Orange” so-called revival.&amp;nbsp; Erin has an &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2012/01/code-orange-speaker-james-macdonald.html"&gt;excellent article exposing James MacDonald’s&lt;/a&gt; downward drift into apostasy by who he associates with and the garbage he is promoting.&amp;nbsp; I can no longer recommend him for anything.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Suze Blog has an &lt;a href="http://sueliz1.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/catholic-church-no-longer-swears-by-truth-of-the-bible/"&gt;interesting article about Roman Catholicism&lt;/a&gt;, and that it “no longer swears by the truth of the Bible.”&amp;nbsp; With Rome, this isn’t necessarily something new!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Joel Osteen was interviewed by Oprah Winfrey and we could probably guess how that would turn out.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2012/01/osteen-explains-to-oprah-how-to-get-to-god.html"&gt; And this is only part of the interview&lt;/a&gt; - I found other parts which weren’t any better.&amp;nbsp; Osteen is a heretic and has no business being in the pulpit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Herescope has done three more parts on their review of Have Heart, a book teaching communication with the dead.&amp;nbsp; Some long articles, but worth the examination.&amp;nbsp; See parts &lt;a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/01/spontaneous-spiritualism.html"&gt;three&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/01/interpretation-by-imagination.html"&gt;four &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/01/spiritualisms-slippery-slope.html"&gt;five&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Meanwhile, John Piper continues his slide into mysticism and New Age beliefs.&amp;nbsp; Apprising Ministries has a good article on &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/09/on-john-piper-and-lectio-divina/"&gt;Piper’s association with Lectio Divina&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Like Beth Moore, Piper is also&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/10/on-john-piper-hearing-from-god/"&gt; hearing directly from God&lt;/a&gt; now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Speaking of Beth Moore, Ken Silva has another&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/13/did-god-give-beth-moore-this-vision/"&gt; excellent article exposing her visions from God&lt;/a&gt; for what they are. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Poor Beth; she&lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2012/01/beth-moore-had-no-idea-she-would-be.html"&gt; had no idea she would be labeled a mystic&lt;/a&gt; for claiming personal revelations from God. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And yet she continues to &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/12/beth-moore-to-speak-for-hillsong-church/"&gt;associate with Word of Faith heretics!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Pastor - correction, Goatherd Ed Young is spending time &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/09/southern-baptist-pastor-ed-young-jr-and-his-silly-24-hour-bed-in/"&gt;in bed with his wife on the roof of their church&lt;/a&gt; - correction, goat barn so as to promote marital sex, as well as their&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;book, Sexperiment.&amp;nbsp; Young has long been teaching about sex from the pulpit.&amp;nbsp; This sort of thing will bring in people, but will it make them converts?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another bizarre movement is about “purity,” and I’m talking about sex vs a life of purity. &amp;nbsp; Now, I’ve seen some of this legalistic nonsense in person with a group we used to know, and I’ve read a lot about it on the internet.&amp;nbsp; It is a bizarre movement where a girl is virtually wed to her father until she marries.&amp;nbsp; The Reformed Traveler &lt;a href="http://thereformedtraveler.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/the-purity-movement-life-in-a-jar-via-the-commandments-of-men/"&gt;has a post with a 4-part video interview &lt;/a&gt;with women and girls in this movement.&amp;nbsp; I found it to be a sad situation for the girls, let alone being bizarre for the fathers.&amp;nbsp; I understand a lot of what they are after (having a daughter myself) but legalism and ceremonies such as noted in this article are just beyond the pale.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #0c25a6; font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Will the “seeker-sensitive” movement ever die out?!?&amp;nbsp; A Methodist Church in Minnesota now has a&lt;a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/minn-church-launches-service-for-unsure-christians-66537/"&gt; service for “unsure” Christians.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Their services will now be “less preachy” so as to make them more inviting for the unbeliever.&amp;nbsp; I have one old post I believe address this apostasy, titled&lt;a href="http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-destroy-church.html"&gt; “How to Destroy the Church.”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I also have an article telling us &lt;a href="http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-is-church-for.html"&gt;what “Church” is really fo&lt;/a&gt;r, and it isn’t for making a place for sinners to be given succor! &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;If your church is making its services appealing to man just to keep attendance up, you need to go elsewhere!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Just to show how bizarre Churches are getting so as to leave every semblance of New Testament teachings behind, now we have a church in Flint, MI &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/05/prayers-and-ink-flint-township_n_1186157.html"&gt;which has a tattoo parlor!&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; The church itself, “The Bridge,” founded in 2008 by Steve Bentley, said he founded the assembly for “people who have never felt comfortable at a traditional house of worship.”&amp;nbsp; Yeah, I can see how talking about sin and the need for a savior could be uncomfortable!&amp;nbsp; But aside the tattoo parlor, they’ve already had Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous office space (groups which violate Scripture with their psychobabble teachings of victimhood), “as well as wrestling and auto repair.”&amp;nbsp; Rest easy though, tattoos “that glorify drugs, gangs or the Devil” aren’t allowed to be done there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Our last look at apostasy in the church today is &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2012/01/lets-get-it-on-the-praise-song.html"&gt;this bizarre “praise” song.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Oh, and it’s Ed Young’s church - you know, the guy in bed with his wife on top of the building?&amp;nbsp; Just another reason the leave that assembly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-6142189937873320427?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/6142189937873320427/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=6142189937873320427' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/6142189937873320427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/6142189937873320427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/random-apostasies-and-heresies.html' title='Random Apostasies and Heresies'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-7507381367596137151</id><published>2012-01-12T12:42:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-12T12:42:30.974-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Seventh-day Adventist'/><title type='text'>Did They Really Say That?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="color: #e4397a; font: 64.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;?!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I was shown that ... the door was opened in the most holy place in the heavenly sanctuary, where the ark is, in which contained the ten commandments.&amp;nbsp; This door was not opened until the mediation of Jesus was finished in the holy place of the sanctuary in 1844.&amp;nbsp; Then Jesus rose up and shut the door of the holy place, and opened the door into the most holy, and passed within the second veil, where he now stands by the ark.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;E.G. White,&lt;i&gt; Early Writings,&lt;/i&gt; p.42, written 1849.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;According to White, Jesus did not enter the most holy place of the heavenly temple until October 22, 1844.&amp;nbsp; What does the Bible say?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;Now the main point of what is being said is this: we have this kind of high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, a minister of the sanctuary and the true tabernacle, which the Lord set up, and not man&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #e4397a; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #e4397a;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Hebrews 8:1,2 (HCSB)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;He entered the holy of holies once for all, not by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Hebrews 9:12 (HCSB).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Since Scripture says Christ entered the holy of holies when he ascended to heaven, either E.G. White is wrong or the writer of Hebrews is wrong.&amp;nbsp; I’ll take my stand with the Bible, which again proves Ellen G. White to be a false prophet, and in this case even a liar who blatantly contradicted Scriptural truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-7507381367596137151?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/7507381367596137151/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=7507381367596137151' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7507381367596137151'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7507381367596137151'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/did-they-really-say-that.html' title='Did They Really Say That?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4747314512351578844</id><published>2012-01-11T18:04:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-11T18:04:28.601-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian living'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='State of the Church'/><title type='text'>Care of Converts</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There are certain telltale signs of the neglect of new converts in evangelical churches.&amp;nbsp; One of the most obvious is the large number of people that confess Christ but will not give allegiance to any church.&amp;nbsp; They float on the sea of religious activity with no sense of direction.&amp;nbsp; They hasten from sacred concert to sacred concert, from Bible conference to Bible conference, from seminar to seminar, from movement to movement, preoccupied with hero image leadership.&amp;nbsp; These unattached Christians are easy prey to certain types of spectacular leadership.&amp;nbsp; They are tasters of sermons more often than they are doers of the Word.&amp;nbsp; If everything does not contribute to their self-centered view of the church, they move on to hear the latest religious star in the vain hope that they have at last found the answer.&amp;nbsp; Well-discipled believers would not fall into that kind of hopeless syndrome.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another sign that indicates a need for discipleship is the many believers that do not grow up: they remain babes in Christ and require constant care.&amp;nbsp; They are problem-centered, wanting a church ministry that provides spiritual props.&amp;nbsp; The pastoral staff counsels many Christians who, in the light of Scripture, should now be equipped to counsel others [but are unable to do so].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Keith M. Bailey, &lt;i&gt;Care of Converts: Leadership Training Manual for Discipleship&lt;/i&gt;, p.13 (1979)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4747314512351578844?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4747314512351578844/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4747314512351578844' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4747314512351578844'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4747314512351578844'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/care-of-converts.html' title='Care of Converts'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-9116865251200166184</id><published>2012-01-10T13:17:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-10T13:17:24.206-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apologetics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='False Teachers'/><title type='text'>Our Call to Judge False Teachings</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;While cleaning up my files I came across an article from a May-June 2006 Critical Issues Commentary, by Bob DeWaay.&amp;nbsp; The subject is the duty of the Christian to judge false teachings. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;DeWaay dismantles the various arguments which claim we are not to judge, as well as the argument which says if we have a problem with false teachings, we should to privately to the teacher.&amp;nbsp; Then he addresses the claim that “you will know them by their fruits” means &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“character qualities, popularity, or the ability to do supernatural signs.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt; DeWaay demonstrates that in Matthew 7 the discussion is about false prophets. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;DeWaay then discusses the following points:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“Personality traits are not fruits.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“The number of one’s followers is not fruit.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“Signs and wonders are not fruits.&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;After the discussion about these points, DeWaay says, “People who call Jesus ‘Lord,’ come in His name, and do works of power are false prophets if they refused to abide within God-given boundaries.&amp;nbsp; This is an important concept.&amp;nbsp; This is lawlessness.&amp;nbsp; ... Understood in this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;way, false prophets are those who teach and practice lawlessness.&amp;nbsp; They do not abide within the once-for-all determined boundaries of New Testament teaching.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;As he continues in the article, DeWaay has some very pointed comments:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“Today many despise the very term doctrine and accuse those of being wrongly motivated who think it is important to correct false doctrine and espouse true doctrine. .... The duties of pastors and elders are very clear in Acts 20 and the Pastoral Epistles.&amp;nbsp; They are to teach true doctrine, correct false doctrine, and protect the flock from wolves.&amp;nbsp; Sadly, those who do so today are often accused of being divisive or sinning because they have ‘judged’ when Jesus told us not to judge.&amp;nbsp; This is a category error.&amp;nbsp; We are not to judge motives or relative degrees of righteousness, but we must judge public teaching.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Well said, Pastor Bob!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I recommend the full article at:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #0c25a6; font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px; text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue94.htm"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue94.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-9116865251200166184?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/9116865251200166184/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=9116865251200166184' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/9116865251200166184'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/9116865251200166184'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/our-call-to-judge-false-teachings.html' title='Our Call to Judge False Teachings'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-2344628202800301098</id><published>2012-01-10T10:11:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-10T10:11:41.296-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian living'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><title type='text'>Sufficiency of Scripture</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Christians go looking for truth and guidance in all the wrong places.&amp;nbsp; They dig through the garbage cans of psychology, mysticism, spiritual gimmicks, and supernatural quick fixes. “As a result,” pastor and teacher John MacArthur says, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“they wallow in a watered-down, pseudo-Christianity that has been drained of its vitality, effectiveness and security”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt; (&lt;i&gt;Our Sufficiency in Christ,&lt;/i&gt; back cover).&amp;nbsp; It’s not like “frozen concentrated orange juice - its contents need not be supplemented, augmented to or diluted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Scripture is clear as to its all sufficiency.&amp;nbsp; Second Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “all Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.”&amp;nbsp; Do you hear what the Holy Spirit is saying through Paul?&amp;nbsp; Scripture is sufficient for the man of God to be complete, thoroughly equipped. ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;When one looks beyond the pages of Scripture, they open themselves to confusion, chaos, subjectivism, mysticism, deception, and even demons.&amp;nbsp; Today, the Church is bombarded with a fraternity of self-proclaimed prophets and self-anointed apostles.&amp;nbsp; These “ascended masters” foist, in numerous ways and expressions, that Scripture is outdated and no longer applies. ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It can be said, without doubt that which the Apostle Paul feared, that which moved him to tears, that which he admonished the church at Ephesus for a period of three years, is again confronting the Church (Acts 20:28-31).&amp;nbsp; It is a problem which the Church continues to face.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Kurt Goedelman, &lt;i&gt;For Life, For Goodness, Scripture is Sufficient&lt;/i&gt;, SBABC newsletter, October-December 2001.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-2344628202800301098?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/2344628202800301098/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=2344628202800301098' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/2344628202800301098'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/2344628202800301098'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/sufficiency-of-scripture.html' title='Sufficiency of Scripture'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-3151434010806380014</id><published>2012-01-09T14:11:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-09T14:11:14.791-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><title type='text'>The Lesson</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A little something I found in my files; I hope you get the point.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Then Jesus took his disciples up to the mountain, and gathering them around him, he taught them saying, “Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.&amp;nbsp; Blessed are the meek; blessed are they that mourn; blessed are the merciful; blessed are they who thirst for justice; blessed are you when you are persecuted; blessed are you when you suffer.&amp;nbsp; Be glad and rejoice for your reward is great in heaven...”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Then Simon Peter asked, “Do we have to write this down?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And Andrew asked, “Are we supposed to know this?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And James asked, “Will we have a test on it?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And Phillip asked, “What if we don’t know it?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And Bartholomew asked, “Do we have to turn this in?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And John said, “The other disciples didn’t have to learn this!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And Matthew asked, “When do we get out of here?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And Judas asked, “What does this have to do with real life?”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Then one of the Pharisees present asked to see Jesus’ lesson plans, and inquired of Jesus his terminal objectives in the cognitive domain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And Jesus wept.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-3151434010806380014?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/3151434010806380014/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=3151434010806380014' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/3151434010806380014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/3151434010806380014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/lesson.html' title='The Lesson'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-2175278939220980490</id><published>2012-01-08T17:26:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-08T17:26:22.239-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pat Robertson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Book Reviews'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Beth Moore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><title type='text'>Random Things in the Christian Realm</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There seems to be no end of books from Christians who claim to have visited heaven, visited hell, or had communication with the dead.&amp;nbsp; The latest book is &lt;i&gt;Have Heart&lt;/i&gt;, in which the author claims communication with the dead.&amp;nbsp; Now, we know necromancy is condemned in Scripture, so I would have to say that pretty well sums up the evidence that this didn’t take place.&amp;nbsp; This week the blog &lt;i&gt;Herescope&lt;/i&gt; had a two-part series, with a third part upcoming, reviewing this book and the ideology behind it.&amp;nbsp; Go &lt;a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/01/do-dead-communicate-with-living.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/01/canaanization-of-church.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for parts one and two. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Additionally, Worldview Weekend published &lt;a href="http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=7845"&gt;a report on the same book&lt;/a&gt; by The Berean Call.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #0c25a6; font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;While Beth Moore has been exposed as a false teacher time and again on this blog and others, John Piper has been slowly descending into apostasy himself, as many apologetics blogs/ministries have been reporting.&amp;nbsp; Now we have Moore and Piper joining together teaching lectio divina at the Passion 2012 Conference.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/06/beth-moore-and-john-piper-lead-lectio-divina-lite-at-passion-2012/"&gt;Apprising Ministries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; and the blog &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-do-john-piper-and-beth-moore-have.html"&gt;Do Not Be Surprised...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; both give good reports on this false teaching method. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sola Sisters&lt;/i&gt; has a good &lt;a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-piper-encouraging-lectio-divina.html"&gt;follow-up about John Piper’s involvement&lt;/a&gt; with this teaching. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And finally, Erin has &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2012/01/biblical-silence-vs-mystical-silence.html"&gt;another report about what really went on at Passion 2012&lt;/a&gt;, and what the difference is between biblical silence and the mystical silence found there.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;An interesting addition to this combination of Moore and Piper &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2012/01/04/john-piper-im-happy-to-learn-from-beth-moore/"&gt;was a video posted by Apprising Ministries&lt;/a&gt; where Piper said, “I’m happy to learn from Beth Moore.”&amp;nbsp; The post is&amp;nbsp; still there but the video is missing for some reason.&amp;nbsp; However, that statement alone tells me Piper is not acting as a shepherd when he is happy to learn from someone who is been exposed as a false teacher in many ways - where is his discernment?&amp;nbsp; I guess it is dying, as his involvement in the lectio divina demonstrates.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Over at &lt;i&gt;Worldview Weekend&lt;/i&gt; there was &lt;a href="http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=7849"&gt;a good short article about “social justice”&lt;/a&gt; and its erroneous promotion by religious liberals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Along the same lines, Gary Gilley has an excellent two-part article about the social gospel.&amp;nbsp; His&lt;a href="http://www.svchapel.org/resources/articles/21-church-trends/733-the-social-gospel-yesterday-and-today-part-1"&gt; first part is about the history of the movement&lt;/a&gt;, including the morphing into things with the Emergent movement and Rick Warren’s PEACE plan, and the devastation it has caused in the Church. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;In &lt;a href="http://www.svchapel.org/resources/articles/21-church-trends/746-the-social-gospel-yesterday-and-today-part-2"&gt;part two &lt;/a&gt;Gilley discusses what the Bible really has to say about the issue. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;You should find this series to be very informative.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Finally, we have false prophet&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;v=PNhrNqS0lyE"&gt; Pat Robertson claiming God has been giving him more revelations.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; He claims God even told him who the next president of the U.S. will be, but he won’t divulge that information.&amp;nbsp; The “revelation from God” is typical false prophet nonsense based on things going on in the world which anyone could give similar speculations about.&amp;nbsp; And “God” gave him a specific revelation about an economic collapse this year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It is sad that so many people give this man the time of day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-2175278939220980490?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/2175278939220980490/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=2175278939220980490' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/2175278939220980490'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/2175278939220980490'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/random-things-in-christian-realm.html' title='Random Things in the Christian Realm'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-287061055142253348</id><published>2012-01-07T11:22:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T11:22:06.538-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doctrine'/><title type='text'>Love, Evil, &amp; Free Will</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A very interesting article with my subject title was in the November-December issue of &lt;i&gt;Worldviews&lt;/i&gt;, the newsletter of the Apologetics Resource Center, written by Jim Edwards.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It was a good article in defense of the skeptics’ claim against a loving God allowing evil in the world.&amp;nbsp; I think the summary would give you enough information to respond to anyone questioning this subject.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Being made in God’s image means we have real free will, real choices, and the deep desires to love and be loved and honor and be honored.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; The alternative of evil (nonconformance with God’s will) is necessary for us to have free will with real choices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; Love and honor would have no meaning without free will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; The benefits of loving and being loved far out weighs the reality that we are allowed to choose evil and this arrangement is consistent with a God that is good and love us enough to make us in His image.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;5.&amp;nbsp; The consequence of mankind’s choices is that evil was brought into our world and is sustained here.&amp;nbsp; All of mankind’s evil is a result of mankind’s real choices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;6.&amp;nbsp; Although we come into this world as a slave to evil due to our earthly father Adam’s choice, God provides us each a real choice to deny evil and do good through faith in Jesus Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Summary of summary: In order to have real free will, evil must exist as a real alternative, but real free will also allows us to love and be loved by God and others, if we choose to follow Jesus Christ instead of Adam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-287061055142253348?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/287061055142253348/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=287061055142253348' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/287061055142253348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/287061055142253348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/love-evil-free-will.html' title='Love, Evil, &amp; Free Will'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-5892674453934299451</id><published>2012-01-05T15:21:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T11:23:08.352-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='State of the Church'/><title type='text'>Underground Church?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This thought-provoking article was in yesterday’s &lt;i&gt;The Berean Call &lt;/i&gt;e-mail, “TBC Today”:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;WILL TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES BE FORCED UNDERGROUND IN AMERICA?&amp;nbsp; [Excerpts]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Will the real Christian churches please stand up? Or, rather, should they go underground?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;In order to stay true to their belief and to God, one conservative Christian commentator is convinced that the "real" Christian church in America is going to be forced to do as the early Christians did -- go underground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;[J. D. Longstreet's commentary argues that] many of the mainline Christian churches have slipped away from the foundation of Scripture to adopt secular tenants and leftist, politically correct philosophies [and] have become only a shadow of the true followers of Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Strong words, but words that Longstreet -- who left his own denomination a few years ago because he said it was forsaking the tenets of the Bible and the gospel -- is standing on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;"Unfortunately, many of our mainline denominations have become nothing more than social clubs with many franchises nationwide," Longstreet writes. "Their pastors 'preach' feel good 'sermonettes' about the environment, and things like 'social justice.' In my opinion, that is not the mission of a church that purports to follow Christ. In fact, Christ Himself spelled out the mission of the church in what we refer to as the Great Commission."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;As Longstreet sees it, pastors in America are fearful of preaching scriptures and of pointing out man's failings. They are concerned that they will be accused of slander or sued for libel. Longstreet admits that's a real threat in America -- and that's why he is suggesting churches that hold true to the gospel will be forced underground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Verdana; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;(Leclaire, "Will True Christian Churches Be Forced Underground in America?", &lt;i&gt;Charisma Online&lt;/i&gt;, 12/8/2011).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-5892674453934299451?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/5892674453934299451/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=5892674453934299451' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5892674453934299451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5892674453934299451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/underground-church.html' title='Underground Church?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-8688501345322291309</id><published>2012-01-03T11:29:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-03T17:43:16.715-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscoll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Benny Hinn'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Steven Furtick'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Book Reviews'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Beth Moore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women pastors'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emergent Church'/><title type='text'>Random Things of Note</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I’ve been very busy with so many things lately that I haven’t had a whole lot of time to put into my blog.&amp;nbsp; One of the good things I did so as to give me more time for my apologetics ministry was to dismantle and close down my social commentary blog, “Sanity in an Upside Down World.”&amp;nbsp; That was getting too time consuming!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Over the past couple weeks I have been collecting various stories to report on, so sit back and enjoy!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Beth Moore is one of those in the spotlight who never seems to lack in false teachings.&amp;nbsp; I’ve reported on many of her problems, but now it seems she also considers Roman Catholicism to be just another Christian denomination - which tells me a lot about her ignorance or Roman Catholicism!&amp;nbsp; But even worse than that, &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/21/beth-moore-recommends-jesus-calling-book-claiming-direct-divine-revelation/"&gt;Moore is now recommending the book, &lt;i&gt;Jesus Calling&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/a&gt; a book whose author claims she receives direct revelation from Jesus. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;If you are unfamiliar with this book, read the&lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/book-reviews/jesus-calling"&gt; excellent review by Tim Challies.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The Church today is really, really getting entertainment-oriented as it slides farther and farther into apostasy.&amp;nbsp; Steve Bricker, at &lt;i&gt;What Accords With Sound Doctrine&lt;/i&gt;, has &lt;a href="http://srbricker.blogspot.com/2012/01/who-is-superior-in-worship-god-or-me.html"&gt;an excellent article about whether our worship services are about God or man&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #0c25a6; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now let’s look at a couple assemblies where the answer seems to be, “MAN.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I don’t know what church this is in, but&lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/12/tone-deaf-michael-jackson-inspired-praise-catastrophe.html"&gt; if this is what you see where you worship&lt;/a&gt; - run out the door and never come back. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Steve Furtick’s “Elevation Church” is right up there at the top rung of the ladder of a self-worshipping assembly.&amp;nbsp; An example of the nonsense going on there is &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2012/01/elevation-churchs-code-orange-christmas.html"&gt;this “Christmas Dance.”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Elizabeth Prata at &lt;i&gt;The End Time&lt;/i&gt; blog has &lt;a href="http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/01/church-of-retina-burning-light-shows.html"&gt;a good commentary on Furtick,&lt;/a&gt; as well as providing more examples of such foolishness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I think &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/29/church-leaders-who-permit-carnality/"&gt;this short talk by Paul Washer &lt;/a&gt;also addresses these types of assemblies, but he also addresses a much bigger problem invading churches who don’t get as bizarre as the ones we just saw, but nevertheless are “catering to the carnal.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Meanwhile, false teacher Rick Warren’s market-driven assembly &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2011/12/saddleback-church-god-is-mad-about-you.html"&gt;says that “God is Mad About You.”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Where do these goatherds come up with this stuff!?!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;One thing I have observed over the years in my Christian life is that those churches who place women in positions of pastor and elder always go liberal in their doctrine and practice.&amp;nbsp; Think about the ELCA, the Episcopal Church, United Church of Christ, PCUSA, and even the Methodist church; these are the churches who promote the social gospel, support same-sex unions, support abortion, etc.&amp;nbsp; There is a reason why Scripture said women are not to be in these positions.&amp;nbsp; Matt Slick has a good,&lt;a href="http://carm.org/women-pastors-biblical-worldview"&gt; short article about Women Pastors and a lack of a biblical worldview.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The “Code Orange” so-called revival seems to me to be more of a place for false teachers to gather and promote their corrupt view of the Church.&amp;nbsp; In the process of reading many articles about this upcoming event, I have learned more and more names and faces of the goatherds who participate in this event.&amp;nbsp; The latest is Kevin Gerald, and &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2011/12/code-orange-speaker-kevin-gerald.html"&gt;Erin’s article covers a lot of ground exposing who he is.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Meanwhile, Mark Driscoll has released his new book, &lt;i&gt;Real Marriage&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Knowing that Driscoll is fascinated by all things sexual, it doesn’t surprise me that he has a really controversial chapter about sex.&amp;nbsp; And he thinks deviant sexual behavior is okay as long as it is within the confines of marriage!&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/book-reviews/book-review-real-marriage"&gt;Tim Challies’ review&lt;/a&gt; ends with him saying it isn’t a book he’d want his wife reading and that he can’t recommend it. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;An even more&lt;a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Review-of-Real-Marriage.pdf"&gt; thorough review by Denny Burk &lt;/a&gt;should lead you to agree with Challies if you hadn’t already done so. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Again I say, Driscoll has no business being a pastor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Roman Catholics virtually Idolize Mother Teresa.&amp;nbsp; Over the years I have come across a lot of information about her which led me to believe there is no way she was saved.&amp;nbsp; This week I stumbled across &lt;a href="http://challi.he253.vps.webenabled.net/articles/the-myth-of-mother-teresa"&gt;an old article by Tim Challies &lt;/a&gt;which I think conclusively demonstrates that Teresa had no clue about the true Gospel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Neil has a good post about a &lt;a href="http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/a-blogment-with-an-atheist/"&gt;discussion with an atheist&lt;/a&gt;, showing how illogical their arguments are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Finally, someone doctored a video of arch-heretic Benny Hinn to have him portrayed as a “Dark Lord of the Sith.”&amp;nbsp; It’s posted at &lt;a href="http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/benny-hinn-dark-lord-of-the-sith/"&gt;Slaughtering the Sheep.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Prepare for a good laugh.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-8688501345322291309?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/8688501345322291309/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=8688501345322291309' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8688501345322291309'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8688501345322291309'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/random-things-of-note.html' title='Random Things of Note'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-7552486077795672097</id><published>2012-01-02T18:01:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-02T20:58:39.188-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Movies'/><title type='text'>The Robe</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TTiiekmMLbA/TwJuvupxLsI/AAAAAAAACqI/r67ERl4zLfw/s1600/The+Robe.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TTiiekmMLbA/TwJuvupxLsI/AAAAAAAACqI/r67ERl4zLfw/s400/The+Robe.jpg" width="218" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This week my wife and I took three nights to watch an old VHS movie of &lt;i&gt;The Robe&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I hadn’t seen this movie in many, many years, and it was almost like seeing it for the first time!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Robe&lt;/i&gt; used to be a television staple during Easter time, but I don’t know if this is still the case because I haven’t watched regular TV in many, many years.&amp;nbsp; I do know that the movie has been well-loved by Christians.&amp;nbsp; And that is the reason for this commentary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I was very disappointed in this movie because it was nothing more than preaching the social gospel and the brotherhood of man, with lots of talk about how just a look from Jesus changed their lives.&amp;nbsp; Yet, how could they learn the gospel with just a look?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There was never any mention of why Christ was crucified, but there was much discussion by the characters about how horrible it was for Rome to have killed Christ.&amp;nbsp; In reality we have from the New Testament letters that it wasn’t a travesty at all - if Christ hadn’t been put to death we would not have the punishment for our sins paid!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;If it wasn’t for the very poor theology, I could have liked this movie.&amp;nbsp; As it was, I was very irritated the whole time whenever some sappy social gospel idea was preached.&amp;nbsp; I could never watch this movie again, nor would I ever, ever recommend it to anyone; not to Christians because I don’t like recommending false teachings, and not to unbelievers because I wouldn’t want them to get the wrong idea about why Christ died.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-7552486077795672097?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/7552486077795672097/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=7552486077795672097' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7552486077795672097'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7552486077795672097'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2012/01/robe.html' title='The Robe'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TTiiekmMLbA/TwJuvupxLsI/AAAAAAAACqI/r67ERl4zLfw/s72-c/The+Robe.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-5161980980412768446</id><published>2011-12-27T17:09:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-27T17:09:41.419-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='State of the Church'/><title type='text'>The Church - A Pillar of Truth</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;One of the things that separate the church from all other organizations is that it is to be the pillar and support of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15). The congregation not functioning as the support and dispenser of truth falls short of the biblical criteria for a local church; therefore the assembly which does not major on truth does not fit the definition of a New Testament church. Its attendance may be “mega,” its programs prolific, its enthusiasm contagious, and its motives honorable, but if it is not the pillar and support of truth it fails in its job description as a church. Call it a club, a social gathering, a political awareness group, a socially concerned assembly, or an entertainment center, but don’t call it a church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Gary Gilley, &lt;i&gt;Think on These Things&lt;/i&gt;, November 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There are many mega-churches today which fit that description, and even many which aren’t “mega” yet, but are aspiring to be so. How about your church: is it a pillar of truth?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-5161980980412768446?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/5161980980412768446/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=5161980980412768446' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5161980980412768446'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5161980980412768446'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/church-pillar-of-truth.html' title='The Church - A Pillar of Truth'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-7537553185042856322</id><published>2011-12-26T18:43:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-26T18:43:01.217-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='A.W. Tozer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Entertainment'/><title type='text'>Religious Plays</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Religious shows leave a bad flavor.&amp;nbsp; When they enter the holy place, they come perilously near to offering strange fire to the Lord.&amp;nbsp; At their worst they are sacrilege; always they are unnecessary, and at their best they are a poor substitute for prayer and the Holy Ghost.&amp;nbsp; Church plays are invariably cheap and amateurish, and in addition to grieving the Holy Ghost, those who attend them are cheated by getting wretchedly poor entertainment for their money.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A.W. Tozer (&lt;i&gt;The Early Tozer: A Word in Season&lt;/i&gt;, p. 98)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-7537553185042856322?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/7537553185042856322/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=7537553185042856322' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7537553185042856322'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7537553185042856322'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/religious-plays.html' title='Religious Plays'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-7098861153919323581</id><published>2011-12-21T14:06:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T14:06:56.738-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='T.D. Jakes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscoll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Joel Osteen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='C. Peter Wagner'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mormonism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Moody Bible Institute'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mike and Debi Pearl'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Henry Blackaby'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Young'/><title type='text'>Random Apostasies and Heresies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A good article on &lt;a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2011/12/bestseller-experiencing-god-misleading.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sola Sisters&lt;/i&gt; blog&lt;/a&gt; about Henry Blackaby and his “soft” mysticism.&amp;nbsp; I came across his “Experiencing God” book a long time ago and learned it was typical aberrational teaching, leading me to say Blackaby’s teachings need to be avoided.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Can you imagine&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/10/megachurch-pastors-joel-osteen-and-t-d-jakes-unite-and-why-you-should-care/"&gt; two heretics uniting for any purpose&lt;/a&gt;? Well, yeah - I can too.&amp;nbsp; This time it is Joel Osteen and T.D. Jakes - two mega-church goatherds.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another goat-herd in the news is Ed Young.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_650441355"&gt;The Museum of Idolatry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;had some of Young’s videos about his new book - “Sexperiment” - which I reported on with my last &lt;a href="http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/random-apostasies-and-heresies.html"&gt;“Random Apostasies and Heresies”&lt;/a&gt; post. &amp;nbsp;But Young has many more problems than his fixation on sex; he is heading well down the road to apostasy, &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2011/12/code-orange-speaker-ed-young-jr.html"&gt;as reported by Erin&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;i&gt;“Do Not Be Surprised...”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Moody Bible Institute is going the way of other Christian colleges and universities, selling out the faith for what feels good.&amp;nbsp; They have now &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/13/moody-publishers-publishes-book-on-contemplativecentering-prayer/"&gt;published a book&lt;/a&gt; on contemplative/centering prayer.&amp;nbsp; Oh those itching ears!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The Pearls are in the headlines again.&amp;nbsp; I have to agree that the Pearls’ book is not to blame for parental abuse; people should make their own decisions and some go much farther in punishment that what Pearl teaches.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt; “Under Much Grace”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://undermuchgrace.blogspot.com/2011/12/consecutive-clips-of-entire-anderson.html"&gt; has a good article&lt;/a&gt; with video clips of Michael Pearls’ interview with Anderson Cooper.&amp;nbsp; I have to agree with Anderson when Pearl said “It’s about training” - Anderson said Pearl’s method was like training animals.&amp;nbsp; The sad part is in the last video clip one of Pearl’s followers claims that training children and animals is the same thing!!! &amp;nbsp; Since Pearl has claimed his book is “God’s way” of training children, I’d like to see biblical support!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Tim Challies has &lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/book-reviews/the-driscolls-and-real-marriage"&gt;a great review of Mark Driscoll’s new book&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;i&gt; Real Marriage&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; There are some real problems with the book as far as what Driscoll considers proper sexual behavior within marriage - among other things.&amp;nbsp; Driscoll seems to have a fascination with all things sexual, as I’ve noted before - he can’t seem to talk about it enough.&amp;nbsp; The man needs to focus more on the Word!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/12/16/mormon-prophet-describes-divine-incest/"&gt;great collection of quotes&lt;/a&gt; from LDS President Ezra Taft Benson is over at Apprising Ministries.&amp;nbsp; These citations demonstrate that the LDS has taught “divine incest” as the way Jesus was born.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another name I’ve come across quite frequently lately is James Robison.&amp;nbsp; He is another of those Christians selling out to the Romanist church.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Suze Blog&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://sueliz1.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/james-robinson-the-lord-wants-protestants-and-catholics-to-unite-as-one/"&gt;has a primer about Robison&lt;/a&gt; if you don’t know who he is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;C. Peter Wagner is the man most responsible for the aberrant “spiritual warfare” model propagated by so many in the charismatic churches.&amp;nbsp; He is also very much part of the aberrant “New Apostolic Reformation.”&amp;nbsp; Herescope &lt;a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2011/12/addendum-erratum.html"&gt;has a good article &lt;/a&gt;about Wagner’s false teachings, which should be a good reason for every discerning Christian to abandon him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Finally, I came across an article about multi-site churches this week &lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.com/2011/12/19/thabiti-anyabwile-on-multi-site-churches/"&gt;at &lt;i&gt;DefendingContending&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Thabiti Anyabwile calls a spade a spade, noting that such abominations are of the devil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-7098861153919323581?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/7098861153919323581/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=7098861153919323581' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7098861153919323581'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7098861153919323581'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/random-apostasies-and-heresies_21.html' title='Random Apostasies and Heresies'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-8907897077605367050</id><published>2011-12-20T11:57:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-20T11:57:49.113-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Science'/><title type='text'>Did They Really Say That?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 64px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;?!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;His disciples believed Jesus to be dead while he was hidden in the sepulchre, whereas he was alive, demonstrating within the narrow tomb the power of Spirit to overrule mortal, material sense. ... Paul writes: “For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the [seeming] death of His Son...”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Mary Baker Eddy, &lt;i&gt;Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures,&lt;/i&gt; p.44,45&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Let’s see; the Bible says Jesus was dead in the tomb and Eddy says he was alive.&amp;nbsp; Then she added a word, in brackets, to Paul’s words to give credence to her teachings.&amp;nbsp; Well, if Christ did not die, then our sins never paid for.&amp;nbsp; What do you trust - the Word of God or the words of Mary Baker Eddy?&amp;nbsp; I trust the Word of God, and I’d suggest you do the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-8907897077605367050?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/8907897077605367050/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=8907897077605367050' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8907897077605367050'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8907897077605367050'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/did-they-really-say-that.html' title='Did They Really Say That?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-26173972104551189</id><published>2011-12-15T15:20:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T15:20:11.356-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philip Yancey'/><title type='text'>What to do About Philip Yancey</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Philip Yancey is a well-known Christian author of books and magazine articles.&amp;nbsp; He writes on various subjects, but often not with a lot of theological “meat.”&amp;nbsp; But there have been things about Yancey which have disturbed me over the years to the point that I decided to do some research to see if what snippets I’ve read about him are actually indicative of his belief system.&amp;nbsp; I have to report that the snippets were indeed indicative of Yancey’s often dangerous beliefs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The first place I looked was &lt;a href="http://www.philipyancey.com/"&gt;Yancey’s web site&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;where I read his responses to various questions.&amp;nbsp; Here are a few of these for your review:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;In regards to a question about trends in the U.S. churches, Yancey had this to say:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“I take hope in the fact that the Spirit always finds a new way of breaking out in the church.&amp;nbsp; Remember the Jesus movement, in which hippies, the least likely group, led the way to Christ.&amp;nbsp; And the charismatic movement, which has spread worldwide.&amp;nbsp; Now the emergent church has emerged, which brings new forms to an old institution.&amp;nbsp; Jesus promised that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church, and that gives me hope.&amp;nbsp; God will always find a way; all God needs is willing hearts.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Notice Yancey speaks with approval of these movements, which I find problematic because I don’t think the Holy Spirit was behind all this, especially the emergent movement!&amp;nbsp; But the follow-up question was also disheartening:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Where do you think the Church will go in the next 10 years?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Sorry, I’m a freelance writer and not a prophet.&amp;nbsp; You should talk to someone like Leonard Sweet or Phillip Jenkins.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I don’t know who Phillip Jenkins is, but that Yancey would direct anyone to Sweet, who is known for his New Age and Emergent leanings, says a lot about Yancey’s lack of discernment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;One subject which I find very disconcerting is Yancey’s stance on homosexuality:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Do I agree with gay Christians’ interpretations of the six passages in the Bible that may or may not relate to their behavior?&amp;nbsp; No.&amp;nbsp;They may be right, but so far I’m unconvinced.&amp;nbsp; I also disapprove of sexual promiscuity, whether of the hetero- or homo- variety.&amp;nbsp; I agree that the temptation and the homosexual orientation are not sin.&amp;nbsp; Beyond that, I stubbornly refuse to answer.&amp;nbsp; I’ll let others debate the morality and the biblical exegesis, and plenty of people seem willing to do so.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Yancey says these passages “may or may not” relate to homosexual behavior!&amp;nbsp; And he refuses to take a stance to say homosexual behavior is wrong, which is something I came across often in my research.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Here is another example from his site:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;What do you think about gay churches?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I’ve attended a few gay and lesbian churches, and it saddens me that the evangelical church by and large finds no place for homosexuals.&amp;nbsp; I’ve met wonderful, committed Christians who attend Metropolitan Community Churches, and I wish that the larger church had the benefit of their faith.&amp;nbsp; At the same time, I think it’s unhealthy to have an entire denomination formed around this one particular issue—those people need exposure to and inclusion in the wider Body of Christ. When it gets to particular matters of policy, like ordaining gay and lesbian ministers, I’m confused, like a lot of people.&amp;nbsp; There are a few—not many, but a few—passages of Scripture that bring me up short.&amp;nbsp; Frankly, I don’t know the answer to those questions.&amp;nbsp; I’m a freelancer, not an official church representative, and I have the luxury of saying simply, “Here’s what I think, but I really don’t know,” rather than trying to set church policy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Should the Church “find a place” for homosexuals?&amp;nbsp; Yes - the same place they find for all other sexual sinners; fornicators, adulterers, etc.&amp;nbsp; The place is at the foot of the cross as they repent of their sexual sins. What sort of “faith” do Yancey’s “gay” friends have if they think God approves of their sexual behavior? And he approvingly cites the Metropolitan Community Churches, bastions of apostasy that they are!&amp;nbsp; He finds the subject of ordaining “gays and lesbians” as ministers to be confusing; has he ever really studied what the Bible says on this matter?&amp;nbsp; It isn’t confusing at all!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Yancey gives tacit approval to the homosexual community as long as they claim to be Christian.&amp;nbsp; Apprising Ministries &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/01/02/affirming-christian-network-philip-yancey-and-gay-christian-network/"&gt;has a good article&lt;/a&gt; about Yancey’s involvement with “Gay Christian Network”. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And "DefendingContending"&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.com/2010/12/11/philip-yancey-keynote-speaker-at-a-2011-homosexual-christian-conference/"&gt;discusses the problems &lt;/a&gt;with Yancey being a keynote speaker at the 2011 “Gay Christian Network’s” conference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;An interesting analysis of Yancey’s teachings in his books and other media comes from a site in Ireland, no less!&amp;nbsp; The author of this site shows how Yancey fits the teacher described in Jude 4.&amp;nbsp; I recommend&lt;a href="http://www.takeheed.net/Assorted_Articles/Contemporary/Yancey_lasciviousness.htm"&gt; this page for your perusal&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Leanne Payne has &lt;a href="http://leannepayne.com/articles/displayarticle.php?articleid=5"&gt;an excellent article&lt;/a&gt; about the problem of using grace to excuse homosexuality, as she reviews Yancey’s book &lt;i&gt;What’s So Amazing About Grace?&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; Here is an excerpt:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Far more subtle is the influence of White upon Philip Yancey. The prolific writer featured White in his book What’s So Amazing About Grace?, showcasing White and his friendship with him as a powerful example of God’s grace. Though the author does not embrace all of White’s choices, Yancey highlights a man who has become the most influential gay Christian of our day. Inadvertently, the author provides an ungodly bridge between a false prophet (White) and thousands of readers seeking clarity in the area of homosexuality. Perhaps Yancey’s inclusion of White in his book is an example of one who has “secretly slipped in among” us in order to “change the grace of our God into a license for immorality” (Jude 4).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Grace without truth is deadly. It plays upon our sentiments. “I want to be a nice guy. I do not want to give a hurting person any more trouble. Didn’t Jesus include the outcasts?” Our desire to be merciful is understandable but uninformed. Sentimentalism distorts the essence of the homosexual conflict; it promotes a dramatic view of the self, which only distances the struggler from his cure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;And it distances one from the real good news of the Gospel. To be sure, Jesus first called the religious hypocrites to repentance. But He then called His followers to deal forthrightly with their sin (Luke 7:36-50; John 8:1-12). To ignore the latter is to scramble the witness of Christ and to set up vulnerable ones for deception.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Men and women facing profound same-sex vulnerabilities require the fullness of grace and truth. Without that fullness, we can readily mislead God’s people into powerful deception. What if I had gone to a Manning or a White at the onset of my healing journey? Perhaps we as Christians are far too naïve in what and who we take in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another review of &lt;i&gt;What’s So Amazing About Grace&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://taministries.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Philip-Yancey.pdf"&gt;can be found here&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Notice the author not only mentions the problem of Yancey’s beliefs about homosexuality, but he also discusses Yancey’s problems with ecumenicism as well as his problems of associating with false teachers (e.g. Tony Campolo) and psychology.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Speaking of Yancey’s ecumenical stance, here is another response to a question on his site, in reference to politics:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;What hopes do you hold for inter-faith communication in a world of political and spiritual division?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The three faiths of Abraham (Islam, Judaism, Christianity) have so much in common, including the entire Old Testament, shared stories, and a similar morality.&amp;nbsp; For one thing, I wish moderate Muslims would speak out more openly against the extremists who are giving their religion a bad name (we Christians have had our turn, of course).&amp;nbsp; And I wish Christians would be more humble in letting God pick out the weeds from the crops, to borrow a metaphor from Jesus.&amp;nbsp; I don’t see Jesus twisting arms and imposing beliefs on people.&amp;nbsp; He won their hearts in a different way.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;His favorable support of Islam is unconscionable, and his ignorance of the teachings of Islam is blatant in his belief that there is such thing as a “moderate” Muslim. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another example of this ignorance comes from &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/november/18.120.html"&gt;an article in&lt;i&gt; Christianity Today&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, where he again is calling an ecumenical movement void of doctrine:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Perhaps our day calls for a new kind of ecumenical movement: not of doctrine, nor even of religious unity, but one that builds on what Jews, Christians, and Muslims hold in common, for the sake of mutual survival. ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;As Heschel pointed out, Jews and Christians (and I would add Muslims) share the belief that this world with its history belongs not to us but to God. We disagree over important doctrines, but are united "in our being accountable to God, our being objects of God's concern, precious in his eyes."&amp;nbsp; Indeed, Jews, Christians, and Muslims have much in common: They honor the authority of Moses and the Hebrew prophets; they believe in the Creator, the God of Abraham; they want to fulfill God's commands of justice and mercy; they see life as sacred. All three acknowledge that we must oppose evil with a holiness that begins with a proper humility before a sovereign God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Tim Challies &lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/book-reviews/prayer-does-it-make-any-difference"&gt;reviewed Yancey’s book&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Prayer: Does It Make Any Difference? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Challies discusses Yancey’s propensity to respect false teachers and dubious mystics:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A further disturbing theme in the book is Yancey’s respect for all manner of perceived spiritual authorities. He affirms Mother Teresa and Martin Luther as equal authorities on prayer, even in the same sentence (and I don’t think he quotes anyone with greater respect or frequency than Mother Teresa). He often quotes Jewish rabbis as if their theology of prayer should be taken as equal to those who love Jesus Christ and who have submitted their lives and their beliefs to the New Testament. A vast quantity of the answers Yancey provides are based on the writing of people whose beliefs would not align with historic Protestantism and hence with Scripture. And, while this book is not a “how-to” guide, it does include an appendix that lists a wide variety of recommended resources. Among these are a great number of books that promote mysticism, contemplative prayer, lectio divina, Roman Catholic prayer guides and the like. There is a recommendation to a book that “gives guidance to different personalities, following the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator test” (something Jesus surely overlooked when teaching us to pray). In fact, the good resources are by far outweighed by the dubious or those that are just plain bad. For example, a section dealing with collections of prayers points readers to the Roman Catholic collection Christian Prayer: Liturgy of the Hours (which, as we might expect includes prayers to Mary) while overlooking classics like The Valley of Vision.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Further evidence of Yancey’s support for secular psychology and mysticism is the fact that &lt;a href="http://www.philipyancey.com/archives/2645"&gt;he is friends with, and promotes, mystic Brennan Manning&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp; as well as being &lt;a href="http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/yancey95.html"&gt;part of the &lt;i&gt;Recovery &lt;/i&gt;movement.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Yancey is also part of the Renovare group, which promotes contemplative prayer.&amp;nbsp; And finally, more from Yancey’s own words about his support of mystics comes from &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thebereancall.org/node/2626"&gt;The Berean Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;from which I draw this excerpt:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Now, Religion in the News, a report and comment on religious trends and events being covered by the media. This week’s item is from Publisher’s Weekly, August 28, 2006, with a headline: PW talks with Philip Yancey. The following are excerpts: Publisher’s Weekly: Many of your books have been about how Christians feel the burden of spiritual practice. Which writers most influenced your thinking about prayer? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;Philip Yancey: No Protestants come to mind, to be honest, so, much I have learned about prayer is from the Catholics. One book I discovered was by Mark Phibido, called, Arm Ch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;air Mystic. Of course, if you want to go deeper, there’s Thomas Merton.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;When Yancey has had questions brought to him about his association with mysticism, he has been against correction, even denouncing those who would dare suggest that he is promoting false doctrine.&amp;nbsp; Again, &lt;i&gt;The Berean Call&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thebereancall.org/node/5865"&gt; has a report about this&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Unfortunately, Christianity Today seems to defend error instead of expose it. In a recent editorial, Philip Yancey rejects all correction as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"Christian McCarthyism,"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;the title of his article. Numerous leaders are defended for their false doctrine and not by dealing with the serious issues their critics raise, but by a dishonest whitewash.&amp;nbsp; For example, Yancey says, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"Richard Foster dares to use words like meditation ...which puts him under suspicion as a New Ager."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; In fact, Foster gave detailed instructions on how to practice Eastern meditation to the extent that the visualized image of Jesus comes to life: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"you can actually encounter the living Christ in the event, be addressed by His voice and be touched by His healing power....Jesus Christ will actually come to you.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; Numerous Christian leaders around the world have joined Foster in his Renovaré movement for reviving Eastern mysticism in the church.&amp;nbsp; There is a similar exoneration of Karen Mains, who Yancey says has merely&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"written about her dream life."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; He fails even to mention the occultic delusion she promotes in her book &lt;i&gt;Lonely No More&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The last evidence against Philip Yancey as a Christian teacher is&lt;a href="http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/yancey/yancey.htm"&gt; an article from Biblical Discernment Ministries.&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It is a quite thorough article about Yancey’s false teachings and beliefs, which goes much beyond the few things I’ve itemized in this article.&amp;nbsp; I think a major problem is exposed in this paragraph discussing apologist Gary Gilley’s review of &lt;i&gt;What’s So Amazing About Grace?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;In a report written by Pastor Gary Gilley of Southern View Chapel, Gilley writes: "Yancey has a fundamental flaw that runs throughout all of his writings -- he doesn't always draw his thoughts and principles from Scripture … this serious flaw of not basing his concepts squarely upon the Scriptures eventually leads Yancey astray. Yancey does not know the difference between tolerance and arrogance; between grace and license; between boldness and harshness. By Yancey's definitions John the Baptist and Elijah would be men of "ungrace"; but God did not seem to think so … Certainly Jesus loved and spent time with prostitutes, but He did so to call them to repentance, not to accept their way of living. Yancey's method of dealing with a homosexual, who is also a church leader, may seem like "grace" to him, it may seem like what Jesus would do, but it is clearly out of sync with the teachings and examples of Scripture.&lt;/span&gt;"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;My case against Philip Yancey has demonstrated him to be a follower and promoter of New Age mysticism in its many permutations, a teacher of unbiblical secular psychological theories, a teacher of varieties of ecumenicism; that he often fails to base his beliefs and teachings on the clear Word of God, that he defends homosexuality, approves of the Emergent movement, and has demonstrated ignorance of the Islamic faith.&amp;nbsp; To top it all off, he rejects correction, denigrating those who would dare point out error.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;So what do we do about Philip Yancey?&amp;nbsp; Avoid him like the plague!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-26173972104551189?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/26173972104551189/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=26173972104551189' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/26173972104551189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/26173972104551189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-to-do-about-philip-yancey.html' title='What to do About Philip Yancey'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-98933887924821557</id><published>2011-12-14T11:26:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-14T11:26:26.917-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cults'/><title type='text'>The Allure of Cult Leaders</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pfo.org/"&gt;Personal Freedom Outreach&lt;/a&gt; is an excellent apologetics ministry, which holds a &lt;a href="http://www.pfo.org/2012-cbd.htm"&gt;biennial apologetics conference &lt;/a&gt;I heartily recommend (the next one is in April 2012).&amp;nbsp; They also publish what I consider to be one of the best apologetics magazines, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pfo.org/prevw_pg1.htm"&gt;The Quarterly Journal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 13.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;In the January-March 2012 issue G. Richard Fisher has an excellent editorial about the allure of cult leaders.&amp;nbsp; Here is the summation of this editorial:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 11.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 13.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Let’s get down to what false teachers offer and promise, which then ties in to what followers are looking for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;1. They offer a place that seems to promise unchanging structure and safety.&amp;nbsp; In other words, they offer a haven of sameness.&amp;nbsp; The troubled and restless latch on to this quickly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; They offer a sense of having the inside track with God through personal revelations an authoritative voices from heaven.&amp;nbsp; Claims of trips to heaven or even angelic visitations really impress the naive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; They offer their boldness in chaotic and frightening world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; They offer a sense of determined direction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;5.&amp;nbsp; The false teacher has honed the ability to twist the Scripture and reality to fit into the group’s purpose.&amp;nbsp; Even dramatic shifts in theology by the false teacher are simply reinterpreted as an attack of the devil or a test from God or maybe even suffering for Jesus’ sake.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;6.&amp;nbsp; The false teacher is able to convince the devotees that doubt is just giving in to reason and the carnal mind.&amp;nbsp; The deep level of the spirit must bypass logical thinking.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;7.&amp;nbsp; The false teacher is able to blur the lines between God’s approval and the false teacher’s own approval.&amp;nbsp; God’s approval comes through him alone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;8.&amp;nbsp; Lastly, add to the above that the phony leader is able to convince them there are things in the Bible that are not just because he says so.&amp;nbsp; His interpretations and additions are then considered “Bible.” ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;So now we can understand more easily why there is such an allure and why such strong attachments are forged between cult leaders and cult followers.&amp;nbsp; In actual fact, the cult leader is an antinomian, without law, structure, or guidelines, running only on his personal subjective feelings, visions, voices, hunches, and sometimes outright fabrications and lies.&amp;nbsp; When we see through the manipulations and attempts at mind control, it makes us less vulnerable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-98933887924821557?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/98933887924821557/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=98933887924821557' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/98933887924821557'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/98933887924821557'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/allure-of-cult-leaders.html' title='The Allure of Cult Leaders'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-5097394224617750940</id><published>2011-12-10T16:09:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-10T16:15:11.471-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discernment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apologetics'/><title type='text'>Is the Bible Sufficient?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Do we need &lt;i&gt;The Prayer of Jabez&lt;/i&gt; or the &lt;i&gt;Secrets of the Vine&lt;/i&gt; or the prayer rituals of Neil Anderson and Mark Bubeck?&amp;nbsp; Do we ultimately need all the subjective and sensational books of Beth Moore or the mystical reflections and ramblings of Henry Blackaby?&amp;nbsp; Some will tell us that the answer is the prophecies of C. Peter Wagner and his coterie of prophets in the New Apostolic Revival despite their often off-the-mark prophecies.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps another will argue the ultimate secret is a Benny Hinn Miracle Crusade or the insanity of a John Crowder or Todd Bentley meeting.&amp;nbsp; Then again it just may be the spiritualist meanderings and automatic writing of the perennial classic &lt;i&gt;God Calling&lt;/i&gt; book.&amp;nbsp; Who has that “something more” and where to find it reminds one of the old carnival wheels - spin and win - maybe, but probably not.&amp;nbsp; Disgraced Family Radio leader Harold Camping thought he had it and so do other modern false prophets and date setters.&amp;nbsp; Christianity is becoming like a carnival sideshow complete with barkers and ringmasters. ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Either the whole Bible is enough for life and godliness or it is not.&amp;nbsp; It is God’s gift for our growth or it is not.&amp;nbsp; We need to follow “the apostles’ doctrine” (Acts 2:42).&amp;nbsp; If the Bible is not sufficient for life and godliness, we should simply throw up our hands in despair over the confusing deluge of claimed revelations, contradictory visions, extrabiblical books, and cult heresies and admit we have no definitive answers.&amp;nbsp; No one would know where the truth really is.&amp;nbsp; We would have to conclude that there is no road map or guidebook.&amp;nbsp; There is no lamp for our feet or light for our path and that there is no fixed truth or guiding plumb line.&amp;nbsp; We would be on our own -&amp;nbsp; lost and sailing adrift upon a sea of subjectivism and mysticism.&amp;nbsp; It is the Bible or nothing.&amp;nbsp; Nothing else makes any sense.&amp;nbsp; The Apostle Paul charged that we are “not to think beyond what is written” (1 Corinthians 4:6).&amp;nbsp; Thus, we affirm that the Bible is enough.&amp;nbsp; And enough is enough!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;G.Richard Fisher, &lt;i&gt;The Continuing Battle for the Bible&lt;/i&gt;, in Personal Freedom Outreach’s &lt;i&gt;The Quarterly Journal&lt;/i&gt;, January-March 2012.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-5097394224617750940?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/5097394224617750940/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=5097394224617750940' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5097394224617750940'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/5097394224617750940'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/is-bible-sufficient.html' title='Is the Bible Sufficient?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-137152593546205986</id><published>2011-12-07T10:59:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-07T10:59:09.121-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Worship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='A.W. Tozer'/><title type='text'>Pray For Conviction</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Let’s pray that God will bring conviction on the world.&amp;nbsp; Let’s pray that He will send conviction back.&amp;nbsp; Religion has become so popular now that it is shown in theaters, sung over radio and in barn dances.&amp;nbsp; Just one more form of entertainment.&amp;nbsp; We fundamentals and evangelicals just will not believe the truth about ourselves and the kind of people we are.&amp;nbsp; So we have a popular religion but very little power because we have very little conviction, very little repentance and very little sorrow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A.W. Tozer (sermon &lt;i&gt;“Men Do Not Believe the Truth About Themselves,”&lt;/i&gt; John 8:38, General Council, as cited in &lt;i&gt;Tozer on Worship and Entertainment&lt;/i&gt;, p.103)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-137152593546205986?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/137152593546205986/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=137152593546205986' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/137152593546205986'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/137152593546205986'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/pray-for-conviction.html' title='Pray For Conviction'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-510537271732970942</id><published>2011-12-06T14:21:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-06T14:21:46.414-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Hagee'/><title type='text'>John Hagee - Enemy of the Jews</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I have been cleaning out files and came across an old article about the Gospel from the April 2008 &lt;i&gt;Jews For Jesus&lt;/i&gt; newsletter.&amp;nbsp; There are a couple references to the false teaching of John Hagee which I decided to post for everyone else’s benefit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The newsletter cites Hagee’s book, &lt;i&gt;“In Defense of Israel,”&lt;/i&gt; in which Hagee claims that “The Jews Did Not Reject Jesus as the Messiah”:&amp;nbsp; It seems Hagee claims Jesus didn’t come to be the Messiah, so therefore the Jews didn’t reject what he offered to them.&amp;nbsp; Of course he also believes Jews do not need the Gospel (the newsletter cites &lt;i&gt;Charisma &lt;/i&gt;magazine of April 2004 for this).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;John Hagee preaches the need for the USA to be friends with the nation of Israel, all the while he is an enemy of the Jewish people by condemning them to eternal damnation&amp;nbsp;by teaching they don’t need the salvation offered by Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-510537271732970942?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/510537271732970942/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=510537271732970942' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/510537271732970942'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/510537271732970942'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/john-hagee-enemy-of-jews.html' title='John Hagee - Enemy of the Jews'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-3817884789225761611</id><published>2011-12-02T15:32:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T13:30:32.112-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Word of Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Joel Osteen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apostasy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vision Forum'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='James MacDonald'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Young'/><title type='text'>Random Apostasies and Heresies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The most irritating apostasy I’ve come across this week is a Baptist Church in Kentucky which will &lt;a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/kentucky-church-bans-interracial-couples-from-becoming-members-leading-worship/"&gt;not allow “inter-racial” couples to be members&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Well, I’d like to know just where they find THAT in the Bible!&amp;nbsp; According to God there is only ONE race, which is Adam’s race; i.e., the human race.&amp;nbsp; Skin color has no bearing on whether or not one is a human (although evolutionism claims the blacks haven’t evolved as far as the lighter-skinned people).&amp;nbsp; This church blasphemes the name of Christ by their treatment of these people!&amp;nbsp; They are nothing but a bunch of racist bigots!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Many mega-church teachers are getting into the whole Word of Faith idea that those who don’t “tithe” are stealing from the Lord, have their money cursed (or are cursed themselves), or are experiencing financial difficulties.&amp;nbsp; Of course it doesn’t matter that only the Nation of Israel was under the tithe, and that Christians are only obligated to give generously and not under compulsion for any particular percentage of their income (2 Cor. 9:6-7); what matters to these goat-herds is that you enrich their coffers!&amp;nbsp; What’s really surprising are some of the names among these teachers, one of which is James MacDonald!&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://revelation22-20.blogspot.com/2011/11/which-one-of-these-is-just-like-othera.html"&gt;Check out this report at “Do Not Be Surprised...”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Sex seems to be the big thing to sell in apostate assemblies nowadays, with goatherds outdoing each other with their shock value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.com/2011/11/24/no-need-for-commentary/"&gt; “Defending. Contending.”&lt;/a&gt; exposes one example of a church in New York with a “kissing contest”, while the &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/11/sexpirament.html"&gt;“The Museum of Idolatry”&lt;/a&gt; has been updating us on Ed and Lisa Young with their new book coming out in January - &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/11/sexperiment-locations.html"&gt;“Sexperiment: 7 Days to Lasting Intimacy with Your Spouse.”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; The Youngs claim the book is &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/12/life-change-via-sexpirament.html"&gt;a “life changer”&lt;/a&gt; and that it will “change your life.”&amp;nbsp; The advertisements are a bit crude at points.&amp;nbsp; But hey, sex draws them in, doesn’t it?&amp;nbsp; Just ask Mark Driscoll!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Vision Forum has received a slight mention by me in the past because I really haven’t had time to study them.&amp;nbsp; However, they are indeed bad news with legalistic and aberrant theology.&amp;nbsp; I found a good site for investigating Vision Forum, and I recommend &lt;a href="http://rethinkingvisionforum.wordpress.com/"&gt;your perusal here&lt;/a&gt; before getting involved with anything to do with this group.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Mega-zoo goatherd Joel Osteen has been proven to be a rank heretic who is more of an entertainer than anything else.&amp;nbsp; Well, now he is looking to develop &lt;a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mega-pastor-joel-osteen-to-get-primetime-reality-show/"&gt;a prime-time “reality show.”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Supposedly it will follow Osteen and several of his goats as they travel around the U.S. on “missions.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It seems the charlatans who work all these false revivals always seem to come up with new ideas for the non-discerning.&amp;nbsp; Charismaniacs now have a &lt;a href="http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/the-cell-phone-anointing/"&gt;“cell phone” anointing available!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt; Yes, sir, get those calls going to spread the “fire”!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;How about I end this issue with “good stuff” article to refresh your brain from the apostasy we have been reviewing.&amp;nbsp; Keith and Kristyn Getty &lt;a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=36478"&gt;tell us why hymns are so important to our worship.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-3817884789225761611?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/3817884789225761611/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=3817884789225761611' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/3817884789225761611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/3817884789225761611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/12/random-apostasies-and-heresies.html' title='Random Apostasies and Heresies'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4893365398472032046</id><published>2011-11-30T18:32:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-02T14:12:59.531-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mormonism'/><title type='text'>Did They Really Say That?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 64px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;?!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Today my wife and I went shopping at an antiques store in Mt. Vernon.&amp;nbsp; As we came out of the store and headed up the sidewalk towards where our car was parked, we noticed two Mormon missionaries walking towards us.&amp;nbsp; Before we got within 20 feet of them they began talking to us so we stopped and listened for a couple minutes as they began their presentation.&amp;nbsp; I interrupted and told them I was an ex-Mormon, so they asked what led me to leave.&amp;nbsp; Our conversation continued for several minutes, during which I pointed out that their Christ was not the Christ of the Bible, which was a main reason for my researching their faith leading to my departure.&amp;nbsp; I mentioned the Adam-God doctrine of Brigham Young’s, and said it was one of the doctrines the LDS discounts.&amp;nbsp; I stated that Brigham Young was a prophet of God and stated he received that doctrine from God and yet the LDS now denies it as true.&amp;nbsp; For the first time ever, I heard a new defense for why this doctrine is wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Wait for it...................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“Brigham Young misunderstood God!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Yes, that’s what they said!!!!!&amp;nbsp; Can you imagine a biblical prophet being excused that way?!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The one young man said he knows the Book of Mormon is true because God told him.&amp;nbsp; Again, this was a new tact I’ve never heard.&amp;nbsp; So I asked, “Did God actually speak to you?”&amp;nbsp; “Yes,” he said.&amp;nbsp; “You actually heard his audible voice?” I asked.&amp;nbsp; “He spoke to my heart,” he said.&amp;nbsp; “AH!,” I said, “Have you not read Jeremiah 17:9 where he says the heart is deceitful?”&amp;nbsp; “But it was God who spoke to me,” he replied.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Well, I suggested there were many problems which he should investigate, such as at least 50 false prophecies by Joseph Smith, grave problems with the Book of Mormon (beginning with the Reformed Egyptian being translated in 1828-29 coming out exactly like KJV 1611 English translating Hebrew &amp;amp; Greek, including the italicized words), the differences in the LDS god and Jesus vs those of the Bible, no historical evidence, no archaeological evidence, etc.&amp;nbsp; I even handed him a business card for my ministry and suggested he review my blog articles.&amp;nbsp; He took the card, but then got close to me and said in a fairly loud, stern voice, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to be silent!”&amp;nbsp; I simply stated, “You invoke the wrong Christ” and continued by stating that DNA has proven that Indians are not of Jewish origin.&amp;nbsp; He looked sort of stunned when I did not become silent at his command.&amp;nbsp; His partner then laughed at me and said they had to go.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;So, is this the new thing? Claim Brigham Young misunderstood God, claim God spoke to them (rather than the burning in the bosom) and command you to be silent?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I did tell them that if they were wrong, they had no second chance.&amp;nbsp; It was really very sad to see these young people so deceived.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4893365398472032046?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4893365398472032046/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4893365398472032046' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4893365398472032046'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4893365398472032046'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/did-they-really-say-that_30.html' title='Did They Really Say That?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-8092557611491364428</id><published>2011-11-26T15:15:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-26T15:15:05.821-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Market-Driven'/><title type='text'>Is Your Assembly Fed on Excitement?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;A Church fed on excitement is no New Testament church at all.&amp;nbsp; The desire for surface stimulation is a sure mark of the fallen nature, the very thing Christ died to deliver us from.&amp;nbsp; A curious crowd of baptized worldlings waiting each Sunday for the quasi-religious needle to give them a lift bears no relation whatsoever to a true assembly of Christian believers.&amp;nbsp; And that its members protest their undying faith in the Bible does not change things any&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; A.W.Tozer, &lt;i&gt;The Next Chapter After the Last,&lt;/i&gt; p.14.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;When I read this I immediately thought of Willow Creek, Joel Osteen’s monstrosity, and lots of other entertainment-oriented “churches” I read about daily.&amp;nbsp; Tozer was right - they bear no relation to a true assembly of Christian believers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-8092557611491364428?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/8092557611491364428/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=8092557611491364428' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8092557611491364428'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8092557611491364428'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/is-your-assembly-fed-on-excitement.html' title='Is Your Assembly Fed on Excitement?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4275690725640765606</id><published>2011-11-23T14:47:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T12:16:54.262-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscoll'/><title type='text'>Mark Driscoll - Not Qualified as a Pastor</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I have said in &lt;a href="http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2009/01/mark-driscoll-preacher-to-avoid.html"&gt;a previous article &lt;/a&gt;that Mark Driscoll is a teacher to avoid.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;It isn’t that he’s a false teacher when it comes to proper doctrine (well, he’s a Calvinist and I disagree with &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; doctrine), it’s that he has a lot of other problems, including rank immaturity.&amp;nbsp; Another blogger recently called Driscoll one of the “top five pastors in America,” and when I challenged him on that claim several others came to his defense.&amp;nbsp; Well, here I’m going to lay out the problems with Mr. Driscoll, and if you think he’s still someone worthy of listening to, let alone one of the top five pastors, then I’d be interested in knowing how you can maintain that position.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;First, as noted in my original post, Driscoll has a habit of using crude language, contrary to Paul’s injunction against such language in Ephesians 4:29 and 5:4.&amp;nbsp; There is no excuse for a pastor to be using such language; it is not “cool” or “hip” to do so.&amp;nbsp; If one lacks a command of the English language, then perhaps they should not be in the pulpit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A paper I linked to in my original article,&lt;a href="http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/driscoll_michels.pdf"&gt; written by Cathy Mickels&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;discusses some grave problems with Driscoll’s immaturity in regards to teaching about human sexuality.&amp;nbsp; In referring to a book by Driscoll, &lt;i&gt;Confessions of a Reformission Rev&lt;/i&gt;, John MacArthur is cited as saying, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“...there are statements in that book that are so sexually explicit and unnecessary and purely gratuitous humor at the basest level...”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; MacArthur is further cited as saying the same language and humor was on a video and later on Driscoll’s web site.&amp;nbsp; MacArthur states that the attitude seems to be to identify with people at their sensual level: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“And I think that baser approach - that’s something I’ve never heard of in my life - I’ve never, ever, in the name of ministry heard anyone who would speak at that level of explicit language with regard to things sexual...”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; The article also links to &lt;a href="http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/11/grunge-christianity/"&gt;this excellent analysis&lt;/a&gt; of the type of behavior presented by Driscoll and why it is not proper for a pastor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Describing an example of Driscoll’s treatment of sexuality, Mickels says&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;In Genesis 3, Satan's first line of attack against mankind was to undermine and call into question the authority of God's Word. Yet, it is this very book of the Bible that hits a funny bone for Mark Driscoll.&amp;nbsp; According to Mark, this is where all &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"good comedy begins."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; First of all, in the story of Adam and Eve, Driscoll throws out a suggestive, sensual idea about Eve that I guess Mark thinks will amuse his male audience. He says &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"...God creates a perfect woman who is beautiful, sinless, and naked,- the same kind of woman every guy ever since has been looking for."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; (&lt;i&gt;The Radical Reformission,&lt;/i&gt; pg.28.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Later Mickels gives another example of Driscoll’s teaching on sex:&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;Driscoll appears to have discovered early on that sex sells and that he could use it to draw a crowd. He writes, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"I assumed the students and singles were all pretty horny, so I went out on a limb and preached through the Song of Songs. ....Each week I extolled the virtues of marriage, foreplay, oral sex, sacred stripping, and sex outdoors, just as the book teaches...This helped us a lot because apparently a pastor using words like 'penis' and 'oral sex' is unusual, and before you could say ‘aluminum pole in the bedroom,’ attendance began to climb steadily to more than two hundred people a week."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;... It is also curious that in spite of Mark Driscoll's acknowledgement that many of the young men at Mars Hill struggle with pornography, Mark would intentionally and frequently plant himself in a barbershop filled with pornography. In his own words, Mark describes his barbershop as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"providing the finest selection of waiting area pornography in our city."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; But, isn't the word "finest" a rather odd way of describing perverted material?&amp;nbsp; Would Mark recommend this same barbershop to other young men at Mars Hill? Since Mark details in his book, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="color: blue;"&gt;The Radical Reformission,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; that he even takes his own young son with him to his barber, a flamboyant transsexual, I will assume the answer is possibly "Yes."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Mickel’s description of a telephone call Driscoll relates which was between him and a man who was into pornography is horrible!&amp;nbsp; Driscoll has no business counseling anyone in any sexual matter.&amp;nbsp; Driscoll’s fascination with all things sexual (he claims the Song of Solomon is his favorite Bible passage) is really comparable to what you find with a high-school locker-room jock.&amp;nbsp; Driscoll’s blog even suggests anal sex with one’s wife is perfectly okay, and then he links to a site called “Christian Nymphos.”&amp;nbsp; Additionally, he advocates the use of “sex toys” and links to an ostensibly “Christian” sex toy site.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;A January 23, 2008 ABC News article by Neal Karlinsky claims Driscoll admits that his preaching can&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“be summed up with two words: sex and Jesus.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A now extinct blog,&lt;i&gt; Slice of Laodicea&lt;/i&gt;, posted a quote from John MacArthur on 5/8/09, in which MacArthur addressed Driscoll’s teaching in regards to human sexuality:&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“For stronger reasons than simple modesty, certain acts involving fornication, autoeroticism, and other things people commonly ‘do in secret’ are shameful to talk about in &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; public context (Ephesians 5:12), much less a church service. They may be suitable subjects for a private counseling session, or the doctor’s office, or a college biology lecture, but they are not fitting topics for a worship service where God should be glorified, Christ should be uplifted, women should be shown respect, children’s innocence should be guarded, and single people’s prurient curiosities should not unnecessarily be enflamed.&amp;nbsp; When a speaker deliberately arouses lusts that cannot possibly be righteously fulfilled in unmarried college students, or when his personal illustrations fail to guard the privacy and honor of his own wife, that is &lt;i&gt;far worse&lt;/i&gt; than merely inappropriate.&amp;nbsp; When done repeatedly and with the demeanor of an immature bad-boy, such a practice reflects a major character defect that is spiritually disqualifying.&amp;nbsp; Any man who makes such things the main trademark of his style is quite simply not above reproach.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Driscoll is also very irreverent (and even blasphemous in my opinion) as he often makes jokes about theological matters.&amp;nbsp; An example I heard while personally viewing a DVD put out by his church was him suggesting that Jesus had a large tattoo on his thigh.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Mickels gives further examples of Driscoll’s irreverent handling of Scripture in &lt;i&gt;The Radical Reformission&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Driscoll sets the stage for more mocking of Scripture by describing the Old Testament as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"a redneck hillbilly comedy."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; He finds humor in Jacob, Aaron, Moses, Job, Jeremiah, and Noah. For example, he undermines the seriousness of the messages of Jeremiah, a prophet of God, by describing him as someone &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"who cries like a newly crowned beauty queen all the time."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; He laughs at Noah for getting drunk and ending up naked in his tent, and then compares him to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"some redneck on vacation."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; Why would Driscoll find amusement or pleasure in seeing Noah's dignity reduced or undermined?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;In his series on humor, the New Testament also gets a Driscoll face lift. Without shame, he turns the issue of circumcision found in Galatians 5 into a crude &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;cut off your pickle joke."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #105ad1; font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Also, unlike all the biblical scholars who have gone before Mark Driscoll, he comes up with another name than the one given in Scripture to describe the Holy Spirit. In his book &lt;i&gt;Confessions of a Reformission Rev&lt;/i&gt;, he thanks &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"God the Ghost&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; for helping him write his book. In another part of the book, Driscoll just shortens it to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"Ghost."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; For those who would be alarmed by this cavalier handling of God and His Word, Mark also has an arrogant, cocky response. He says, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"...religious people are too serious.....judgmental.... they're such a joke."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Mocking and poking fun at Jesus and his family, Mark writes, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;".....everytime they (the religious leaders) see Jesus, it agitates them that he is always surrounded by a crowd telling knock-knock jokes to miscreants who love his sense of humor because his perfection had to have included comedic timing."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; In other communications Mark refers to the King of Kings as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"a dude"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; and uses word pictures depicting Him as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"a prize-fighter with a tattoo down his leg..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; In Driscoll's human attempt to make Jesus relevant, he turns the spotless lamb into a blemished lamb tarnished with the markings of the streets of Seattle. (&lt;i&gt;The Radical Reformission&lt;/i&gt;, pg. 30.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Discussing more irreverent teaching from Driscoll at Mars Hill, Mickels reports, &lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;One will hear things at this church never heard before about Christ. In a church video series regarding the humanity of Christ, Mark had fun with the question whether or not Jesus went "potty." In response, according to Driscoll, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"...yes, Jesus went number one and number two," &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;but he did it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;"perfectly....never got the toilet all wet."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I think you get the general idea of what Cathy Mickels reports on, but I really recommend you read the entire document.&amp;nbsp; It paints a picture of a “pastor” with some serious problems, especially in the realm of teaching on sexuality, and totally irreverent handling of God’s Word.&amp;nbsp; Much of it is relating things from Driscoll’s books, &lt;i&gt;“The Radical Reformission&lt;/i&gt;” and &lt;i&gt;Confessions of a Reformission Rev.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt; (Why anyone reading these books would still consider Driscoll worthy to be a pastor is beyond my comprehension.)&amp;nbsp; Just that article alone should have droves leaving Driscoll’s church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Mark Driscoll has preached at Robert Schuller’s “Crystal Cathedral” a couple times and yet has not preached a solid gospel message there - a “church” which needs the truth more than anything else.&amp;nbsp; He has also associated with Schuller on several occasions, and has even congratulated Schuller for his ministry - congratulating a rank heretic for preaching heresy!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This year Driscoll has been claiming he receives direct revelations from Jesus.&amp;nbsp; Interestingly enough, they usually have to do with sexual matters.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/08/09/mark-driscoll-has-personal-revelations-from-jesus/"&gt;This article&lt;/a&gt; gives the full text of some of Driscoll’s claims, which are nothing less than bizarre. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;In fact, as with his teaching on sexuality, some of these revelations are&lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2011/08/pornographic-divination.html"&gt; downright pornographic&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Lately Driscoll has been&lt;a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2011/10/mark-driscoll-speaking-to-demons-i-want.html"&gt; propagating a false spiritual warfare theology&lt;/a&gt; - including promoting false teachers in this subject - and claims he has even talked to demons.&amp;nbsp; Not only that, he accepts what the demon says as the truth as to what the demon is doing.&amp;nbsp; His description of his conversations with demons would be downright laughable if Driscoll wasn’t seriously teaching it as truth.&amp;nbsp; His demonology includes ideas from the totally aberrational “deliverance ministries” and is totally unbiblical.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;According to &lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt; 4-part article, “Who Would Jesus Smack Down?” Driscoll will allow no dissent.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“In 2007 two elders protested a plan to reorganize the church that...consolidated power in the hands of Driscoll and his close aides.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; Their protests led to their excommunication, and when a member complained, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; membership was suspended.&amp;nbsp; According to the article, Driscoll said, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“They are sinning through questioning.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; I’d be interested to know where Driscoll finds that in Scripture!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;As his schtick, Driscoll displays a persona of a “cool dude,” and has even said one could call him &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Pastor Dude.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt; said Driscoll has the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“coolest style and foulest mouth of any preacher you’ve ever seen”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; and said he is the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“cutting edge of American pop culture.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Would you really want your pastor to describe Christ as &lt;/span&gt;"&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;a classic underachiever with no wife, kids, stable career or even much of a home."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; I’d say this is downright blasphemous!&amp;nbsp; Yet Driscoll also says that Jesus began his ministry as a bartender. Mickels also cites his books where Driscoll makes jokes about soiling his trousers.&amp;nbsp; Driscoll obviously sees himself as a stand-up comedian, but is this the character of a shepherd of God’s people?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Let me sum up the problem with Mark Driscoll as a pastor:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He behaves in a very immature and arrogant fashion reminiscent of a high-school locker-room jock.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He appeals to the basest level in his teaching on human sexuality, and even teaches sexual perversion as being okay.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He uses coarse, as well as sexually explicit language, which gives him an undignified reputation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He abuses the Word of God while promoting levity and irreverence for it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He speaks and teaches blasphemously about Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He gives tacit approval to the teachings of heretic Robert Schuller.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He teaches falsely about spiritual warfare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He claims direct revelation from God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He claims to have conversations with demons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;He claims those who question him are sinning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Paul details the qualifications for elders (including pastors) in 1 Timothy 3:2-7 and Titus 1:6-9.&amp;nbsp; Among these qualifications are (HCSB): “above reproach,” “self-controlled,” “sensible,” “respectable,” “a good reputation with outsiders,” “not arrogant,” “loving what is good” - none of which are demonstrated by Driscoll.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I maintain that Mark Driscoll has a huge following not because he teaches solid meat of Biblical doctrine, but because he appeals the the basest fleshly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;attitudes of the world, making his services and books into stand-up comedy routines with much sexual titillation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Update 12/3/11:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I found an article in my files which I thought should be added to this post. &amp;nbsp;The article can be found at&lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.com/2009/06/24/i%E2%80%99ve-had-it-with-mark-driscoll-and-his-mouth-now-it%E2%80%99s-personal/"&gt; http://defendingcontending.com/2009/06/24/i’ve-had-it-with-mark-driscoll-and-his-mouth-now-it’s-personal/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4275690725640765606?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4275690725640765606/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4275690725640765606' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4275690725640765606'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4275690725640765606'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/mark-driscoll-not-qualified-as-pastor.html' title='Mark Driscoll - Not Qualified as a Pastor'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-1316455517818303611</id><published>2011-11-20T16:12:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-20T16:12:46.330-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hymns'/><title type='text'>The Power of the Cross</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This morning in our assembly of saints we sang a contemporary worship song by&amp;nbsp; Keith Getty and Stuart Townend.&amp;nbsp; That team has some really doctrinally powerful songs.&amp;nbsp; The lyrics are well worth contemplating.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Power of the Cross&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Oh, to see the dawn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Of the darkest day:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Christ on the road to Calvary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Tried by sinful men,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Torn and beaten, then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Nailed to a cross of wood.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;CHORUS:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This, the power of the cross:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Christ became sin for us;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Took the blame, bore the wrath—&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;We stand forgiven at the cross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Oh, to see the pain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Written on Your face,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Bearing the awesome weight of sin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Every bitter thought,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Every evil deed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Crowning Your bloodstained brow.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now the daylight flees;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now the ground beneath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Quakes as its Maker bows His head.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Curtain torn in two,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Dead are raised to life;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;"Finished!" the victory cry.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Oh, to see my name&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Written in the wounds,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;For through Your suffering I am free.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Death is crushed to death;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Life is mine to live,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Won through Your selfless love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;FINAL CHORUS:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;This, the pow'r of the cross:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Son of God—slain for us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;What a love! What a cost!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;We stand forgiven at the cross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-1316455517818303611?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/1316455517818303611/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=1316455517818303611' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/1316455517818303611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/1316455517818303611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/power-of-cross.html' title='The Power of the Cross'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-9072153302013629973</id><published>2011-11-20T15:48:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-20T15:50:50.255-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doctrine'/><title type='text'>Have You Created Your Own God?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;"Throughout history, the further people have strayed from the supremacy of Scripture, the more removed they have become from their Creator.&amp;nbsp; In our corrupted human nature, we love to create our own god.&amp;nbsp; A safe god; custom-designed to suit our tastes.&amp;nbsp; Let’s face it, we all have our own desires and agendas.&amp;nbsp; If we can just get ‘god’ &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;(however we may conceive of him) to back us up...well, now that’s really a ‘higher power’ we can worship!&amp;nbsp; The Jesus of the Gospels is not the non-confrontational, infinitely tolerant, impotent idol the liberal church has molded Him into.&amp;nbsp; Such a ‘revised’ image of Jesus may not threaten willful sinners, and they may stay comfortable in whatever lifestyle they please.&amp;nbsp; A selective reading of Scripture may yield a very different deity; not a true representation of the One True God.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;"Jesus is not the harsh, ascetic taskmaster the Church of the Dark Ages portrayed Him to be.&amp;nbsp; The Christ of the Bible is a gentle Shepherd, not a drill sergeant.&amp;nbsp; Still, He takes sin very seriously.&amp;nbsp; It cost Him greatly.&amp;nbsp; A perfectly holy God cannot wink at sin and still be just.&amp;nbsp; In order to fully grasp God’s unfathomable love for His people, His infinite mercy, and His hatred of sin (as well as His definition of what ‘sin’ is; not ours), you must&amp;nbsp; go straight to the source.&amp;nbsp; The Bible is the only direct revelation humanity has from the lips of God.&amp;nbsp; As you pursue knowing Him, God will reveal His heart to you (Jeremiah 29:13; James 4:8)."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Marie Notcheva, &lt;i&gt;Redeemed From the Pit&lt;/i&gt;, pp.128-129&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-9072153302013629973?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/9072153302013629973/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=9072153302013629973' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/9072153302013629973'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/9072153302013629973'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/have-you-created-your-own-god.html' title='Have You Created Your Own God?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-2070615536452116580</id><published>2011-11-19T09:08:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-19T09:08:05.691-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mormonism'/><title type='text'>Did They Really Say That?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 64px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;?!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;The world was peopled before the days of Adam, as much so as it was before the days of Noah.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #1666f9;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Orson Hyde, October 6, 1854, &lt;i&gt;Journal of Discourses&lt;/i&gt; 2:79&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Orson Hyde was not only an LDS apostle, he was the President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles from 1847 to 1875.&amp;nbsp; And yet this man directly contradicts the Bible with his teaching: according to the Bible Adam was the very first man on earth.&amp;nbsp; I’d say this is another proof that the LDS is not a Christian faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-2070615536452116580?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/2070615536452116580/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=2070615536452116580' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/2070615536452116580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/2070615536452116580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/did-they-really-say-that.html' title='Did They Really Say That?'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-1491121809764747835</id><published>2011-11-18T13:38:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-18T13:38:33.097-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Family Radio'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Harold Camping'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brian McLaren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apostasy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Market-Driven'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Roman Catholicism'/><title type='text'>Random Apostasies and Heresies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;The Romanist church is doing more and more to form a one-world religion, proving again that they are not God’s church.&amp;nbsp; The council for Synod of Bishops for America met in Rome to discuss the RCC relation to other religions.&amp;nbsp; Their statement includes this:&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“the Catholic Church, while affirming the specific originality of Christianity, does not reject anything that is true and holy in non-Christian religions.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; Another citation starts with, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems....”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; and goes downhill from there.&amp;nbsp; They address Hinduism, Judaism and Buddhism also in positive terms.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://sueliz1.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/american-synod-of-catholic-bishops-incorporate-all-religions-into-the-church/"&gt; See Suze Blog for a good report.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Then we have a Catholic adoption agency &lt;a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/illinois-catholic-agency-says-it-had-no-choice-but-to-offer-same-sex-adopti"&gt;capitulating to the state of Illinois&lt;/a&gt; so as to keep state money flowing.&amp;nbsp; Rather than stand their ground with other Catholic agencies against providing adoptive children to same-sex couples, the Diocese of Belleville child welfare agency changed their name from “Catholic Social Services of South Illinois” to “Christian Social Services of South Illinois.”&amp;nbsp; The Catholic Church in Illinois as a whole actually did the right thing and closed down their services rather than kow-tow to the homosexual agenda of Illinois, but not this group; they disassociated themselves from the Catholic Church.&amp;nbsp; There is still a problem in that they call themselves Christian while supporting the unholy idea of giving children up for adoption to same-sex couples!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;Seeker sensitive churches continue their spiral into total apostasy.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/"&gt;The Museum of Idolatry&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;posted another two prime examples of the nonsense taking place in these apostate assemblies.&amp;nbsp; First we have&lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/11/blessing-zone.html"&gt; Ed Young Jr.’s church&lt;/a&gt; with his false teachings of a “blessing zone.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;Then we get to see &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/11/northpoint-thriller.html"&gt;North Point Church&lt;/a&gt; with their “worship” service including a production of “Thriller.”&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;These assemblies are nothing but herds of goats led by goatherds.&amp;nbsp; All they want is entertainment and to leave church feeling good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Jan Markell’s Olive Tree Ministries posted a &lt;a href="http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs019/1101818841456/archive/1108625089198.html"&gt;thought-provoking article&lt;/a&gt; this week by Jack Kinsella, telling us about the apostasy of the religious Left and its leader, heretic Jim Wallis.&amp;nbsp; Wallis has long promoted the false “social gospel” - which sure fit’s the description of Paul’s “other gospel”!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/atheologies/5348/harold_camping_is_not_sorry/"&gt;Harold Camping is not sorry he taught all the false stuff&lt;/a&gt; about Christ coming back in May and then October (or even 1994).&amp;nbsp; Nope, it wasn’t his fault; it was God’s fault for letting him believe and teach that stuff:&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“It seems embarrassing for Family Radio. But God was in charge of everything. We came to that conclusion after quite careful study of the Bible. He allowed everything to happen the way it did without correction. He could have stopped everything if He had wanted to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; That’s right - if you prophesy falsely, it is God’s fault.&amp;nbsp; He’s lucky he didn’t live in O.T. Israel or he’d find himself stoned!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Brian McLaren, arch-heretic leader of the Emerging Church movement, has some really bizarre teachings.&amp;nbsp; This week I came across &lt;a href="http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/brian-mclaren12-step-groups-may-help-us-escape-bible/"&gt;an article from almost two years ago&lt;/a&gt; which tells of McLaren’s ideas about how we may need to have 12-step groups to help us escape from our biblical ideas!&amp;nbsp; That Bible can really mess you up, you know.&amp;nbsp; Why, it just might help you see through false teachers like McLaren!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Finally, this week I came across another blog to follow.&amp;nbsp; I was directed to the blog because of this excellent article about &lt;a href="http://joeljmiller.com/the-cult-of-agreeableness/"&gt;“The cult of agreeableness.”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Tune in to this blog - Joel has some good stuff to say.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-1491121809764747835?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/1491121809764747835/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=1491121809764747835' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/1491121809764747835'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/1491121809764747835'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/random-apostasies-and-heresies_18.html' title='Random Apostasies and Heresies'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-845681592097563404</id><published>2011-11-15T09:51:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-15T09:52:40.593-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psychology'/><title type='text'>The Psychological Method vs Christianity - Part 7</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fTS_yUPpt1k/TsKKvuqh28I/AAAAAAAACjE/3gCjKfacUQM/s1600/Psych.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fTS_yUPpt1k/TsKKvuqh28I/AAAAAAAACjE/3gCjKfacUQM/s400/Psych.jpg" width="347" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;WHAT ABOUT “CHRISTIAN PSYCHOLOGY”?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Dave Hunt quotes two Christian psychologists as saying, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“there is no acceptable Christian psychology that is markedly different from non-Christian psychology.&amp;nbsp; It is difficult to imply that we function in a manner that is fundamentally distinct from our non-Christian colleagues. . . .&amp;nbsp; As yet there is not an acceptable theory, mode of research or treatment methodology [in psychology] that is distinctly Christian.”&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Hunt then asks,&lt;span style="color: #105ad1; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Then what is meant by ‘Christian psychology?’&amp;nbsp; Most laypersons imagine that there is indeed a psychology which is distinctly Christian.&amp;nbsp; The professionals know, however, that they are involved in an &lt;i&gt;attempted integration&lt;/i&gt; of atheistic and anti-Christian theories into Christian theology.&amp;nbsp; Psychology is part of that very ‘wisdom of this world’ taught by ‘the spirit of the world’&amp;nbsp; which Paul rejected (1 Corinthians 2:5-14).&amp;nbsp; Rapha founder Robert McGee frankly confesses that he joins the Holy Spirit in partnership with atheist Albert Ellis, who considers Christianity a cause of mental illness:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #105ad1; font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;‘Changing how we think, feel, and act is a process that involves the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit. . . .&amp;nbsp; As a starting point, however, we will use a model adapted from psychologist Albert Ellis’s Rational Emotive Therapy.’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #105ad1; font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“Psychology comes out of the occult, is not scientific, and many of its leading professionals admit that it is destructive.&amp;nbsp; The same legitimate criticisms that can be leveled against secular psychology apply equally to so-called ‘Christian’ psychology.&amp;nbsp; Yet it has invaded the best pulpits and is a large part of the curriculum in Christian universities and even seminaries.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;If the roots of a system are bad, and there is no science behind the system, and the fruits of the system are bad, why should Christians be dabbling in it?&amp;nbsp; Why do we have “Christian Psychologists” such as James Dobson, Larry Crabb, Gary Collins, et al, trying to syncretize the psych system with Christianity?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;“What fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; (2 Cor. 6:14).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;SUMMARY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The world view in which the roots of psych are firmly planted and fed is one of sexual perversion,&amp;nbsp; humanism, evolutionism, atheism, the occult, hedonism and selfism.&amp;nbsp; There is nothing scientific about the methods and theories, rather they are very much akin to witchcraft and shamanism, and we have seen that it is in fact a religious belief incompatible with Christianity.&amp;nbsp; As would be - should be - expected of the roots feeding on this world view, the fruits produced are sexual perversion, sexual immorality, idolatry of self, eugenics, racism, lack of personal responsibility, spiritual anarchy, and the break up of the family unit.&amp;nbsp; This fruit is harmful not only to the individual, but has brought much ruin on society in every aspect of it, even to the permeating of the church with so many programs based on the psych methods. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;CONCLUSION&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;What about the Christian in need of counsel; what do we as the Church do with them and how do we go about getting the counseling help we might need?&amp;nbsp; The obvious answer is that we go to the Bible.&amp;nbsp; It claims to be sufficient for all our needs (2 Pet. 1:3) and the Holy Spirit is there to guide us into all wisdom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;According to Torrey there are four primary components of counseling no matter who is doing it, no matter what the qualifications or theory.&amp;nbsp; These four components are: 1.&amp;nbsp; a shared worldview &amp;nbsp; 2.&amp;nbsp; the personal qualities of the therapist&amp;nbsp; 3.&amp;nbsp; the expectations of the client&amp;nbsp; 4.&amp;nbsp; emerging sense of mastery in the client.&amp;nbsp; Every one of these can be fulfilled with Biblical counseling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;Essentially, the worldview/culture is the most important feature.&amp;nbsp; Torrey states that&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“all attempts at cross-cultural psychotherapy of which I am aware have been either difficult or unsuccessful.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; Interestingly, he also states that, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Therapists in almost all cultures are closely allied with religious functions.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp; Since the Christian world view is based on the Bible, the Christian’s counselor should have the very same world view and be a Christian.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;When it comes to item 2, the therapist must be someone who is moral and ethical, with worth and dignity and able to be respected.&amp;nbsp; This may not even be the actual qualities, but may also be those projected on the counselor by the client.&amp;nbsp; Torrey points out that the therapist-client relationship is a personal one in all cultures of the world. &amp;nbsp; A church elder, pastor, or even a trusted friend who is seen as knowledgeable in the Scriptures should fulfill this role for the Christian.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The third component of client expectations is very important.&amp;nbsp; As Torrey says, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Anything that raises client expectations aids this process.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; He points out that, &lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“The expectations of a client in psychotherapy are a composite of many factors.&amp;nbsp; Hope is an essential element, and this in turn is related to trust in the healer or therapist.&amp;nbsp; Trust is dependent on the personality characteristics of the therapist, and in this way the third component of psychotherapy (client expectations) interacts with the second (personal qualities of the therapist).”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Can we not as Christian counselors give expectations of hope to our counselees?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Part of the process of client expectations is the important function of naming the problem, which Torrey calls &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“the principle of Rumpelstiltskin.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; In relation to this Torrey says, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“much of the naming process and the assignment of meaning can be looked at from the vantage point of increasing the client’s faith in the therapist and increasing the expectations of cure.&amp;nbsp; It is the naming, in fact, that is the necessary first step; only when the malady is properly identified does the possibility of curing it become a real one.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; With Christian counseling the identity of the problem is usually “sin.” &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;The fourth component is what Torrey calls “the Superman syndrome.”&amp;nbsp; This is where the client is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“convinced that their therapy has provided them with the knowledge, competence, insight, and understanding necessary to master life’s adversities. . . . ”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp; The Christian counselor should provide the counselee with the proper biblical teaching and requirements of personal responsibility so that the counselee is certainly left with the ability to master the problem following the Lord’s instructions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Biblical counseling is a valid field, and is sometimes known as “nouthetic” counseling.&amp;nbsp; Leaders in this field include Jay Adams, whose books for Biblical Counselors are many and thorough.&amp;nbsp; Let us as Christians seek the use of Biblical Counseling, and totally separate ourselves from the psych philosophies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The following sources were were cited in this series:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Freudian Fraud,&lt;/i&gt; by E. Fuller Torrey, M.D.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Witchdoctors and Psychiatrists,&lt;/i&gt; by E. Fuller Torrey, M.D.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The End of “Christian Psychology,&lt;/i&gt;” by Martin &amp;amp; Deidre Bobgan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Occult Invasion&lt;/i&gt;, by Dave Hunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Psychology as Religion: The Cult of Self-Worship&lt;/i&gt;, by Paul C. Vitz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Beyond Seduction: A Return to Biblical Christianity&lt;/i&gt;, by Dave Hunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Why Christians Can’t Trust Psychology&lt;/i&gt;, by Ed Bulkley, Ph.D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Evolution in American Education and the Demise of its Public School System&lt;/i&gt;, by Lael&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Weinberger,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;located at&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2005/01/31/evolution-american-education" style="color: #0c25a6;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: underline;"&gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2005/01/31/evolution-american-education&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Additional recommended sources consulted:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Psychobabble: The Failure of Modern Psychology - and the Biblical Alternative&lt;/i&gt;, by Richard Ganz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Psychology and the Church&lt;/i&gt;, by Dave Hunt &amp;amp; T.A. McMahon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Psychoheresy: The Psychological Seduction of Christianity&lt;/i&gt;, by Martin &amp;amp; Deidre Bobgan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Deceptive Diagnosis: When Sin is Called Sickness,&lt;/i&gt; by Dr. David Tyler &amp;amp; Dr. Kurt Grady&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Christian Psychology’s War on God’s Word&lt;/i&gt;, by Jim Owen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Psychologized Man: A Biblical Perspective&lt;/i&gt;, by Martha Peace&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Manufacturing Victims: What the Psychology Industry is Doing to People&lt;/i&gt;, by Dr. Tana Dineen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;James Dobson’s Gospel of Self-Esteem &amp;amp; Psychology,&lt;/i&gt; by Martin and Deidre Bobgan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;TheoPhostic Counseling: Divine Revelation or Psycho Heresy?&lt;/i&gt; by Martin and Deidre Bobgan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Larry Crabb’s Gospel,&lt;/i&gt; by Martin and Deidre Bobgan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;12 Steps to Destruction: Codependency Recovery Heresies&lt;/i&gt;, by Martin and Deidre Bobgan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;ADHD: Deceptive Diagnosis,&lt;/i&gt; by Dr. David M. Tyler and Dr. Kurt P. Grady&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Will Medicine Stop the Pain?&lt;/i&gt; by Elyse Fitzpatrick &amp;amp; Laura Hendrickson, M.D.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Self-Esteem: Are We Really Better Than We Think?&lt;/i&gt; by David M. Tyler, Ph.D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Biblical View of Self-Esteem, Self-Love, Self-Image&lt;/i&gt;, by Jay E. Adams&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 11.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Recommended resources for Christian Counseling&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mending the Soul: Understanding and Healing Abuse,&lt;/i&gt; by Steven R. Tracy, Ph.D.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Competent to Counsel: Introduction to Nouthetic Counseling&lt;/i&gt;, by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Christian Counselor’s Manual&lt;/i&gt;, by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Theology of Christian Counseling,&lt;/i&gt; by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Christian Counselor’s Casebook,&lt;/i&gt; by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Homework Manual for Biblical Living: Vol. 1 Personal and Interpersonal Problems&lt;/i&gt;, by Wayne A. Mack&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Leaving Yesterday Behind: A Victim No More,&lt;/i&gt; by William Hines&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Only God Can Heal the Wounded Heart,&lt;/i&gt; by Ed Bulkley, Ph.D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Curing the Heart: A Model for Biblical Counseling&lt;/i&gt;, by Howard Eyrich &amp;amp; William Hines&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Counsel From Psalm 119&lt;/i&gt;, by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Helps for Counselors: A Mini-Manual for Christian Counselors,&lt;/i&gt; by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Hope &amp;amp; Help for Self-Injurers and Cutters&lt;/i&gt;, by Mark Shaw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Biblical View of Self-Esteem, Self-Love, Self-Image&lt;/i&gt;, by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;From Forgiven to Forgiving&lt;/i&gt;, by Jay E. Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-845681592097563404?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/845681592097563404/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=845681592097563404' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/845681592097563404'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/845681592097563404'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/psychological-method-vs-christianity_15.html' title='The Psychological Method vs Christianity - Part 7'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fTS_yUPpt1k/TsKKvuqh28I/AAAAAAAACjE/3gCjKfacUQM/s72-c/Psych.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-4551904689616365048</id><published>2011-11-14T12:47:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-14T12:56:32.258-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psychology'/><title type='text'>The Psychological Method vs Christianity - Part 6</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0i5Q5cOsR5M/TsFkUUa_oCI/AAAAAAAACi8/j1yK-N69N1Y/s1600/Psych.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0i5Q5cOsR5M/TsFkUUa_oCI/AAAAAAAACi8/j1yK-N69N1Y/s400/Psych.jpg" width="347" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;FRUITS OF THE PHILOSOPHY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;For purposes of our study, this can be the most important section, demonstrating what the fruits of the psych field are and will be. Some of the fruits of the philosophy behind the psych fields are harmful to individuals undergoing the counseling, while the entire civilization is harmed by the psych fields in general. These are the fruits of this world view which is based on such an anti-God philosophy. I will begin this section with harm caused to individuals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Bobgans quote Dr. Jeffrey Masson, former Projects Director of the Sigmund Freud Archives, as saying, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Everybody should know, then, that to step into the office of a psychotherapist, regardless of the latter’s persuasion, is to enter a world where great harm is possible.”&lt;/span&gt; Knowing this, why would anyone, let alone a Christian, put himself at the mercy of a psychotherapist?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Torrey cites a review of 12 studies which says that psychotherapy is harmful in one out of 20 people, and that some types of “therapy” have even higher harm rates. He says that,&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt; “Even individuals who do not have a brain disease may become agitated, anxious, and severely depressed by psychotherapy.”&lt;/span&gt; Torrey also points out that there are &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“other adverse effects of psychotherapy, which occur more commonly with insight-oriented therapies as found in the United States. One is a syndrome described. . . as the &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘utilization of a psychotherapeutic experience to rationalize feelings of smugness, superiority over others, or utilizing “insights” to aggressively comment on other people’s behavior.’&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;/span&gt; He says that a &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“variant of this is the fully ‘analyzed’ client or therapist whose insight becomes a rationalization for self-serving behavior.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The &lt;em&gt;Handbook of Psychotherapy and Behavior Change&lt;/em&gt; says, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“. . . research suggests that some patients are worse as a result of psychotherapy. . . . Many more recent studies continue to document rates of deterioration in patients, even in those who participate in carefully controlled research protocols. . . . After reviewing the empirical literature and the critiques of the evidence accumulated, it is our view that psychotherapy can and does harm a portion of those it is intended to help.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Hunt tells us of a disturbing case: &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Indeed, in the famous Cambridge-Sommerville Youth Study, involving 650 underprivileged boys six to ten years of age (divided equally into two groups), follow-up 30 years later revealed that those who received therapy had more problems with &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘alcoholism, mental illness, job dissatisfaction and stress-related diseases’&lt;/span&gt; and committed significantly more serious crimes than those who were not given the ‘benefit’ of psychological counseling. Any scientific evidence we have been able to compile proves that psychotherapy is at best ineffective and is even harmful in many cases.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Hunt also cites the following from Bruce Wiseman’s &lt;em&gt;Psychiatry, The Ultimate Betrayal:&lt;/em&gt; &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“For eons some children, like adults, have always been more active than others. Perhaps they play harder or wander mentally because of a short attention span. . .[and] parents simply dealt with this as a fact of life. . . . And the wise parent saw that children, like adults, learn to change their behavior for the better. . . . However, psychiatry has deemed there is something wrong. . . . The child and parents thought he was normal when they walked into the psychiatrist’s office. They think he is abnormal when they walk out. . . . As a normal child he would have been tolerated, endured, disciplined. . . whatever parents have done for thousands of years. And in all likelihood, he would have grown out of it with little significance made of the situation. As an abnormal child, however, he would have been treated much differently by his parents, his teachers, and possibly his classmates. He would have been ‘special’. . . on years of medication. . . . He himself would, of course, think he had something inherently wrong with him. . . . Most likely this sense of ‘abnormality’ would be with him the rest of his life.”&lt;/span&gt; (This is certainly what we see with the government schools diagnosing so many as ADD/ADHD and medicating them for their school career.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Torrey tells us that studies have shown&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt; “that counseling and psychotherapy given to young juvenile delinquents do not decrease later criminal behavior. On the contrary, insofar as it has any effect at all, it appears to &lt;em&gt;increase&lt;/em&gt; later criminal behavior.”&lt;/span&gt; This is certainly harmful to these individuals, and to their victims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;From this point we will be looking at the overall harm to society in general that has come by way of the psych fields. Although the problem is world-wide, it is more prevalent in the United States due to the full embracing of the psych fields in this country for the past century. Carl Rogers stated that,&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt; “Yes, it is true, psychotherapy is subversive. . . . Therapy, theories and techniques promote a new model of man contrary to that which has been traditionally acceptable.”&lt;/span&gt; This philosophy of being subversive to the point of promoting that which has never been traditionally acceptable is indeed bringing ruin to our society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;As previously noted, the overarching philosophy of the psych fields is that the self is most important, that we as individuals should be determining values without resorting to an outside source for guidance, and that our happiness is supreme over everything. This causes major problems since, as Paul Vitz reminds us, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“individual relativism leads to social anarchy and. . . it flies in the face of simple common sense.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Torrey tells us, “&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;The core of Freud’s theory and therapy are both fundamentally narcissistic in assuming that one’s happiness is the greatest good. . . . Indeed, the focus of virtually all psychotherapy systems, many of which come and go in America like cerebral fall fashions, is not some higher ideal, not one’s fellow man, but merely oneself.”&lt;/span&gt; But has this self-focus been good at all? Absolutely not! Hunt tells us that, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Numerous studies by secular psychologists and psychiatrists have demonstrated that the higher one’s self-esteem, the more likely one is to be immoral, violent, and prone to trample on the rights of others.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Even Maslow recognized a major problem with his self-esteem theory. The Bobgans cite his book &lt;em&gt;Motivation and Personality&lt;/em&gt; where Maslow says, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“The high scorers in my test of dominance-feeling or self-esteem were more apt to come late to appointments with the experimenter, to be less respectful, more casual, more forward, more condescending, less tense, anxious, and worried, more apt to accept an offered cigarette, much more apt to make themselves comfortable without bidding or invitation. In still another research, their sexual reactions were found to be even more sharply different. The stronger [high self-esteem] woman is much more apt to be pagan, permissive, and accepting in all sexual realms. She is less apt to be a virgin, more apt to have masturbated, more apt to have had sexual relations with more than one man, much more apt to have tried such experiments as homosexuality [and other itemized behaviors]. In other words, here too she is apt to be more forward, less inhibited, tougher, harder, stronger.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Vitz also has some good insights. He states that, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“The growth of self-expression in our classrooms in the last two decades has not served to bring a glorious increase in student happiness and mental health. If anything, the great rise in student violence and the continued decline in student test scores are evidence that the opposite has occurred. In short, the assumption about the complete natural goodness of the self, which stands at the heart of the values clarification theory, is false.”&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; Vitz avers that&lt;/span&gt; ". . . .modern psychology has created widespread 'social pollution' by its analytical (and also reductionist) emphasis on the isolated individual and its relentless hostility to social bonds as expressed in tradition, community structures, and the family."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;As an example of the problems originating in this idolatry of the self, Vitz states, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“The increase in the rates of divorce owes much to the values advanced by self-theory, at least if the comments of former partners can be taken at face value.”&lt;/span&gt; He also points out that, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Many self-theorists, especially Carl Rogers, give very little value to marriage - and indeed encourage divorce on theoretical grounds. . . . Rogers states that &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘a relationship between a man and a woman is significant, and worth trying to preserve, only when it is an enhancing, growing experience for each person.’&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Are there other teachings in the psych fields that aid in this breakdown of marriage and family? Most certainly. As previously noted, Freud, as well as many of his followers, were very misogynistic. This makes the theory inherently so, as well as being very patronizing of women. Karl Menniger, for example, claimed that mothers were the cause of just about every problem with individuals or civilizations! Torrey says that, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“This theory has led logically to an epidemic of mother-blaming and women-bashing among mental health professionals. For example, a study of 125 articles in professional journals published between 1970 and 1982 reported that &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘mothers were held responsible for 72 different kinds of psychological disorders in their children . . . not a single mother was ever described as emotionally healthy, although some fathers were, and no mother-child relationship was said to be healthy.’&lt;/span&gt; A social worker recalled that during her training, &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘We took it for granted that mothers caused much pathology. . . . If a patient is in trouble, the underlying assumption is that the mother must have done something wrong. . . . If [the problem] is not viral or bacterial, it must be maternal.’&lt;/span&gt; The concept of pathogenic mothering has come to permeate almost all forms of psychotherapy and is used to explain most individual and family pathology. . . . …according to Freudian theory, women rather than men are said to be responsible for many of the world’s problems.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;With this view of women, is it any wonder that sexual relationships are not respectful of women; that sexual “freedom” becomes the norm so that women are nothing more than objects of satisfaction for men? If one denigrates marriage by idolatry of self, and believes that women are the cause of all the problems in the world, why not just use them for gratification of sexual desires by men? Just what other ideas in the realm of sexuality do we have projected by the psych fields; what philosophies are prevalent today that have led to such abuse of sexuality? Let’s look at some of these ideas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Torrey cites Paul Goodman, a Freudian, as saying that &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“the repression of infantile and adolescent sexuality is the direct cause of submissiveness of the people to present rule of whatever kind.”&lt;/span&gt; So apparently even children should be sexually active to avoid such a “neurosis.” It is quite apparent to anyone reading the daily newspaper just where this has headed, with public school sex education becoming more of “how to” rather than limiting the instruction to biological information, while they hand out condoms to students, advocate homosexuality as an alternative, aid students in getting abortions, and leave the whole subject of morality up to the students themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The sexual revolution which has led to all sorts of sexual immorality is indeed rooted in the psych fields. As a result of a vote, rather than any scientific or medical evidence, the American Psychiatric Association and American Psychological Association both removed homosexuality from their list of mental illnesses in 1973, which led to more and more societal acceptance to the point where it is propagated as a normal lifestyle in all arenas of public life. This is also what led to the acceptance of homosexuals adopting and “civil unions.” The decision to remove homosexuality from being a mental illness was done under pressure from homosexual lobbyists. In 1998 the American Psychiatric Association stated that therapy aimed at changing homosexuals should be rejected. In the summer of 2004 the American Psychological Association even came out with resolutions supporting homosexuals adopting and homosexuals “marrying.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;To demonstrate just how far the psych fields have gone in advancing sexual immorality, it was only a couple of years ago that at their conference in San Francisco members of these associations suggested that adult-child sex was not harmful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Torrey tells us that &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“A second major liability of Freud’s theory has been its promotion of irresponsibility. This evolved logically from the belief that individuals are governed by powerful unconscious forces, arising from early childhood experiences, which thereby usurp their freedom of action. . . . It is the areas of child rearing and criminal behavior in which Freudian theory has had the most profound effect and in which traditional concepts of responsibility have been challenged. In the Freudian scheme, men and women are seen increasingly as puppets of their psyches governed primarily by the edicts of their egos. The corollary of ‘don’t blame me’ is ‘blame my parents,’ expressed clearly from the earliest days of the Freudian movement. . . . In the Freudian schema, mother, father, family, social circumstances, and culture become the causal agents for whatever is wrong. The ripple of personal irresponsibility spreads slowly outward to cover ever greater areas until the very terms ‘good’ and ‘bad’ seem to no longer have meaning.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Most of today’s leaders in just about every part of society were products of child-rearing practices of the 1950s and 1960s, which were based on Freudian concepts that were promoted primarily by Dr. Benjamin Spock. These teachings can be directly linked to the permissiveness that became so prevalent from the 1960s on. Torrey cites Dr. Louise B. Ames, Co-director of the Gesell Institute of Child Development as saying,&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt; “Most of the damage we have seen in child rearing is the fault of the Freudian and neo-Freudians who have dominated the field. They have frightened parents and kept the truth from them. In child care I would say that Freudianism has been the psychological crime of the century.”&lt;/span&gt; Torrey also cites Norman Vincent Peale as characterizing Spock’s teaching as &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Feed ‘em whatever they want, don’t let them cry, instant gratification of needs. And now Spock is out in the mobs leading the permissive babies raised on his undisciplined teaching.”&lt;/span&gt; Peale is also cited by Torrey as saying that his was &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“the most undisciplined age in history.”&lt;/span&gt; Interestingly, Spock is also cited as saying that parental problems with child rearing &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“occur mainly in families with college background or with a definite interest in child psychology.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Dave Hunt makes the clear nexus between these child-rearing practices and irresponsibility in our young people. He says, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“The explosion of youth’s rebellion, crime, and immorality has coincided with the exponential growth of psychology since the early 1950s. There was a 43-percent increase in the number of Americans in the 10-19 age bracket who were committed to psychiatric hospitals from 1980 to 1987, while the number of private psychiatric beds per 100,000 persons more than doubled in the five years from 1983 to 1988. What a growth industry! Psychology has been rightly called the only profession that &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘creates the diseases which it claims to cure.’&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; Hunt continues by pointing out,&lt;/span&gt; “What was once disciplined as laziness, disinterest, stubbornness, or rebellion is now excused as a mental ‘disorder.’ The number of children diagnosed as having ‘learning disabilities’ nearly tripled from 1977 to 1992!”&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;As I have demonstrated previously, it was the Freudian theory and its follow-ons which taught the idea that no one is really responsible for their actions, because they only behave the way they do due to some problem that took place during their childhood. “Mental illnesses” have multiplied exponentially over the years to the point that just about everyone in society has some sort of neurosis! This has led to pleas of “not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect” by many criminal lawyers. A U.S. Court of Appeals decision has even stated that a person &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“could be ruled not guilty of a crime by reason of irresistible impulse.”&lt;/span&gt; Personal responsibility is absolved! Again, daily references to the newspapers will show how many criminals are judged innocent because of various “mental diseases,” and how many lawsuits are won against corporations because the judicial system, following the psych fields’ teachings, refuse to assign personal responsibility to the so-called “victims” who smoke, over-eat, misuse products, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;One result of the psych field is our tradition of age-segregated public school systems. The following lengthy citation demonstrates the connection between the psych field and the belief in evolution which it propagates:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“While a public fight was going on over what would be taught in the public school science curriculum, evolution was being applied to the schools in a more subtle manner. In the late 1800s, Granville Stanley Hall was a prominent educator at Johns Hopkins University. He believed in evolution and was a leader in the developing field of psychology. In 1904, he published a book on adolescence, advocating a new theory of child development based on evolutionary recapitulation . This theory was soon to be applied to classrooms across America.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“Hall’s recapitulation belief was that child development reflected evolutionary ancestry; certain ages, he argued, represented stages of evolutionary development. Infancy and early childhood corresponded to early “pre-civilized” mankind just grown out of its animal stage. Ages 6–7 were “crisis” years, where children could enter school and leave the “pre-civilized” state behind. Ages 8–12 corresponded to “the world of early pigmies.” Ages 13–18 were what he declared to be the stage of adolescence. This period, Hall claimed, was critical, as the child entered a “stormy” ancient civilization stage, and finally grew into full civilization.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Hall’s book was a major influence on the public schools as age segregation became more emphasized. Before Hall, the “stormy” period of adolescence was virtually unknown. John Quincy Adams, later to become US president, received a diplomatic appointment overseas for the federal government when he was only fourteen years old. For those who acquired a college education in the 1700s, thirteen-year-old freshmen were not uncommon. But Hall made little allowance for the fact that children mature differently. Now all six-year-olds, seven-year-olds and eight-year-olds get their own classes, learn to stick with their age group peers, and it is regarded as odd—if not suspicious—if a ten-year-old associates with a fifteen-year-old. Today it is often a terrible thing for a child to be ahead of his peers—public school children must fit into Hall’s evolutionary mold.&lt;/span&gt; (Perhaps this is why we don’t see children like John Quincy Adams any more.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“Hall’s theory was widely accepted because it was in full character with the mood of academia at the start of the twentieth century. Freud’s humanistic psychology was growing in acceptance, and Hall was a leader in psychology. The theory of embryonic recapitulation was also popular, and Hall merely extended this belief (namely, that human embryos recapitulate—or retrace—their evolutionary history) to children after they were born. Thus, the days of the one-room schoolhouse were numbered, and age segregation became more and more emphasized. Age segregation, it should be noted, is certainly foreign to “real life,” where one must interact with people of all ages. (Incidentally, even Benjamin Rush, one of the “fathers” of American public schools, stated that public schools should imitate conditions of a “private family.”) So when creationists began fighting in the 1920s to keep evolution teaching itself out of the schools, the subtle application of evolution in the schools was already being made.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Some other fruits of the psych fields are eugenics and racism. Psych was part and parcel of the eugenics movement of the 1920s and 1930s in America. Torrey tells us that, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“As late as 1942 Foster Kennedy, a professor of neurology at Cornell University, writing in the &lt;em&gt;American Journal of Psychiatry&lt;/em&gt;, urged a program of euthanasia &lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;‘for those hopeless ones who should never have been born - Nature’s mistakes. . . . It is a merciful and kindly thing to relieve that defective - often tortured and convulsed, grotesque and absurd, useless and foolish, and entirely undesirable - of the agony of living.&lt;/span&gt;’”&lt;/span&gt; As for racism, this thinking is essentially based on evolutionism, that different races are on different levels of evolution. The &lt;em&gt;Psychological Review&lt;/em&gt; of January 1930, for example, had an article discussing the superior intellect of the Nordic race. Of course eugenics and racism are bound up with one another; part of the reason for eugenics was for the destruction of so-called lesser races.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The problem of “repressed memories” leading to many false accusations among thousands of Americans also has it’s origin in Freud. Freud wrote,&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt; “We must not believe what they [patients] say [when they deny having memories], we must always assume, and tell them, too, that they have kept something back. . . . We must insist on this, we must repeat the pressure and represent ourselves as infallible, till at last we are really told something. . . the pressure technique, in fact, never fails.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;A particular fruit offensive to the Christian faith is in the area of spirituality. Aside from the fact that psych is seen as another religion and is antagonistic to God in general, Hunt’s book has an entire chapter discussing the occult connections with the psych field. The issue of multiple personalities has been raised into the claim that we all have them and that we need to get in touch with them. The connections to the mind sciences is established, the use of hypnosis in treatments opening up the client to the occult, the affiliation with shamans among members of the Association for Humanistic Psychology, and the connections between the psych field and the search for extra-terrestrials. In this same area of thought, the Bobgans cite Dr. Maureen O’Hara as saying, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“It is significant to remember that the present New Age movement has its origins in the counterculture of the sixties and early seventies. Early inspiration came from the writings of Abraham Maslow, Eric Fromm, Rollo May, Carl Rogers, and others.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Some last thoughts to give cause for concern about where the fruits of psych are heading will close this section. Torrey has demonstrated that the Freudian theory has influenced the majority of the liberal intellectual elite, and that the Democratic party as a whole has succumbed to this philosophy. He also cites Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, at the time president of the World Federation for Mental Health, as saying, &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“if the race is to be freed from its crippling burden of good and evil, it must be the psychiatrists who take the original responsibility.”&lt;/span&gt; And Hunt cites leading psychologists as suggesting that &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“parents be licensed to have children only upon demonstrating a sound understanding . . . of truth dispensed by psychologists.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Will you be licensed?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-4551904689616365048?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/4551904689616365048/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=4551904689616365048' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4551904689616365048'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/4551904689616365048'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/psychological-method-vs-christianity_14.html' title='The Psychological Method vs Christianity - Part 6'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0i5Q5cOsR5M/TsFkUUa_oCI/AAAAAAAACi8/j1yK-N69N1Y/s72-c/Psych.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-7637066673108684928</id><published>2011-11-13T17:25:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T17:25:21.090-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ELCA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Joel Osteen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Benny Hinn'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mike and Debi Pearl'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Roman Catholicism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jehovah&apos;s Witnesses'/><title type='text'>Random Apostasies and Heresies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A California ELCA church bills itself as “herchuch,” and is a bastion of feminist ideology.&amp;nbsp; As if this wasn’t heretical enough, &lt;a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=360365"&gt;they just hosted the fifth annual “Faith and Feminism Conference,” &lt;/a&gt;which included a high priestess of Isis as one of the speakers.&amp;nbsp; So why does the ELCA not excommunicate this heretical assembly?&amp;nbsp; Oh, that’s right, because the ELCA is apostate itself!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Zondervan publishers has long printed many books with false teachings, but their latest endeavor is taking new roads to apostasy.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/11/are-magic-circles-being-taught-by-zondervan-mark-batterson.html"&gt;Take a look at the book and small group curriculum they are publishing based on the Jewish Mishnah&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Joel Osteen never ceases to amaze me with just how much a false teacher he is.&amp;nbsp; Now he &lt;a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2011/11/joel-osteen-welcomes-oprah-winfrey.html"&gt;has had Oprah Winfrey as a visitor &lt;/a&gt;and instead of rebuking her for her false teaching and leading so many people away from God, &lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.com/2011/11/08/and-the-crowd-goes-wild/"&gt;he praises her and gushes all over her&lt;/a&gt;, and all the goats in his assembly do the same!&amp;nbsp; Osteen is 100% poison to the Christian faith. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Apprising Ministries has&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2011/11/10/oprah-winfrey-joel-osteen-christian-post/"&gt; a good article about this incident.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/pastor-corporal-punishment-advice-scrutinized-child-deaths-160004793.html"&gt;Michael and Debi Pearl are back in the news&lt;/a&gt; with their aberrational child-raising methods.&amp;nbsp; It seems there have been more children killed by applying their principles.&amp;nbsp; I have to admit that, as taught in their book, they do not advocate quite such severe punishment, but anyone taking the teaching to its logical conclusion will certainly end up with that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The Snarky Apologist always has some good videos exposing the false teachings of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.&amp;nbsp; Usually they are fairly short,&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Jqc6zwyNs"&gt; but this one is just over 14 minutes.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; It is some good information for anyone who wants to be able to counter the JWs at the door with some good questions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Ralph Peterson has a short video which demonstrates Benny Hinn exercising his demonic power; but Ralph humorously calls it &lt;a href="http://notallowed2laff.blogspot.com/2011/11/christian-whack-mole.html"&gt;“Christian Whack-a-Mole.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Finally, I came across an excellent article this week itemizing &lt;a href="http://rrrapostasyalert.blogspot.com/2011/11/95-specious-lies-of-rome.html"&gt;“95 Specious Lies of Rome”&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; in honor of Luther’s 95 Thesis.&amp;nbsp; Something to share with your Roman Catholic friends.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-7637066673108684928?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/7637066673108684928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=7637066673108684928' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7637066673108684928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/7637066673108684928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/random-apostasies-and-heresies_13.html' title='Random Apostasies and Heresies'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-3315889295363299938</id><published>2011-11-12T11:03:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-12T11:05:18.086-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psychology'/><title type='text'>The Psychological Method vs. Christianity - Part 5</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wr0hjj1OPGw/Tr6nQOFEkfI/AAAAAAAACZA/UC-e_TE5HV0/s1600/Psych.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wr0hjj1OPGw/Tr6nQOFEkfI/AAAAAAAACZA/UC-e_TE5HV0/s400/Psych.jpg" width="347" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Aside from the various previous citations in reference to individual religious beliefs and religious connotations of their teachings, here I will demonstrate the various ways in which the psych field is indeed seen as some type of religion.&amp;nbsp; Vitz bluntly states, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“contemporary psychology is a form of secular humanism based on the rejection of God and the worship of self.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; He also states, "&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;In many respects, all modern psychology of whatever theoretical persuasion, because of the emphasis on special, somewhat esoteric knowledge, can be interpreted as part of a vast gnostic heresy."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Torrey tells us that, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“The similarities of Freudian theory and therapy to a religion have been noted and commented upon from its earliest inception in Vienna. . . . .&amp;nbsp; Freud offered an understanding of the unknown, an explanation for evil, and in later years. . . even a myth of creation.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Meanwhile, Hunt quotes psychologists who have &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“described psychotherapy as a kind of national religion, with a gospel of self-fulfillment and with therapists as the new priests”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; The Bobgans cite psychiatrist Thomas S. Szasz, Professor Emeritus of State University of New York, as saying,&lt;span style="color: #105ad1; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“. . . the human relations we now call ‘psychotherapy’ are, in fact, matters of religion - and that we mislabel them as ‘therapeutic’ at great risk to our spiritual well-being.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Jung essentially felt that God was in everyone with a collective unconscious.&amp;nbsp; His&lt;span style="color: #105ad1; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“goal for psychoanalysis was to be an all-encompassing religion superior to Christianity,”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;and the Bobgans cite a letter Jung wrote to Freud as follows:&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“I imagine a far finer and more comprehensive task for [psychoanalysis] than alliance with an ethical fraternity.&amp;nbsp; I think we must give it time to infiltrate into people from many centers, to revivify among intellectuals a feeling for symbol and myth, ever so gently to transform Christ back into the soothsaying god of the vine, which he was, and in this way absorb those ecstatic instinctual forces of Christianity for the one purpose of making the cult and the sacred myth what they once were - a drunken feast of joy where man regained the ethos and holiness of an animal.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The Bobgans also cite Maslow: &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“These psychologies give promise of developing into the life-philosophy, the religion-surrogate, the value-system, the life-program that these people have been missing.&amp;nbsp; Without the transcendent and the transpersonal, we get sick, violent, and nihilistic, or else hopeless and apathetic.&amp;nbsp; We need something ‘bigger than we are’ to be awed by and to commit ourselves to in a new, naturalistic, empirical, non-churchy sense, perhaps as Thoreau and Whitman, William James and John Dewey did.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Dave Hunt cites an article from &lt;i&gt;Psychology Today&lt;/i&gt; where Rollo May says, &lt;span style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“We have bid goodbye to the theologians at the wake for our dead God.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He also cites a 1969 article from the same magazine that says we must&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“face our own inner experiences without the guidance of traditional. . . foundation stones of Judeo-Christian experience. . . . We are compelled to erect our own morality, arrive at our own faith and belief. . . .”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Hunt also tells of the &lt;i&gt;Journal of Humanistic Psychology&lt;/i&gt; publishing an article declaring, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“From Delphi’s ‘know thyself’ through scripture’s ‘you shall be as gods!’ we are left with the certitude that we are, indeed, multidimensional beings capable of works beyond our imagining and that our primary purpose in life is to discover who we are and who we can become.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Another citation from the Bobgans is this one from Herbert Lazarus in his book,&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;How to Get Your Money's Worth Out of Psychiatry:&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“Psychiatry has a quarrel with only those forms of religion which emphasize the doctrine of original sin. Any belief that tends to focus on the idea that man is inherently evil conflicts with the basically humanistic approach to problems that psychiatrists must follow."&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;G. Brock Chishom, onetime director of the U.N. World Health Organization and president of the World Federation for Mental Health, stated, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“If the race is to be freed from its crippling burden of good and evil, it must be psychiatrists who take the original responsibility. . . .&amp;nbsp; With the other human sciences, psychiatry must now decide what is to be the immediate future of the human race.&amp;nbsp; No one else can.&amp;nbsp; And this is the prime responsibility of psychiatry.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;To sum up this section I have to agree with William Kirk Kilpatrick, Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at Boston College, who is cited by Bulkley as saying, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Psychology and religion are competing faiths.&amp;nbsp; If you seriously hold to one set of values, you will logically have to reject the other.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-3315889295363299938?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/3315889295363299938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=3315889295363299938' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/3315889295363299938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/3315889295363299938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/psychological-method-vs-christianity_12.html' title='The Psychological Method vs. Christianity - Part 5'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wr0hjj1OPGw/Tr6nQOFEkfI/AAAAAAAACZA/UC-e_TE5HV0/s72-c/Psych.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-8917086274752277461</id><published>2011-11-11T11:27:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-11T11:27:41.848-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psychology'/><title type='text'>The Psychological Method vs. Christianity - Part 4</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YRTmGFRFtk0/Tr1a_11eVQI/AAAAAAAACYc/8pzhsSeaR3o/s1600/Psych.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YRTmGFRFtk0/Tr1a_11eVQI/AAAAAAAACYc/8pzhsSeaR3o/s400/Psych.jpg" width="347" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;SCIENCE OR THEORY?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 10.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;There is nothing scientific about the psych field; psychologists have developed hundreds of theories and several thousand therapies.&amp;nbsp; A good place to start an examination to prove this is to look at some citations about Freud’s theories in particular, since, as already stated, all other theories have their ultimate origin in Freud.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Freud’s theories essentially state that&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“early childhood experiences, especially those that are sexual in nature, as being the crucial determinants of adult personality and behavior.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Hunt points out that Freud’s theories&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“were founded upon his warped view that all thought, feeling, and motivation have their roots in sexual cravings.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; However, as Torrey succinctly puts it, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“people who have invested hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in therapies arising from Freudian theory are not pleased to learn that the theory is devoid of any scientific foundation.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Torrey writes&amp;nbsp; that, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“Although he had been trained as a scientist and on occasion invoked scientific metaphors to support his position, after the turn of the century Freud’s interest in scientifically validating his theory appears to have waned. . . .&amp;nbsp; Freud’s critics noted the scientific shortcomings of his theory from its earliest days.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Torrey also cites a 1916 article in the &lt;i&gt;Nation&lt;/i&gt; which said that Freud’s theory was &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“well founded&amp;nbsp; neither theoretically nor empirically. . . . it conveys the impression of unscientific method.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;In 1959 Dr. Benjamin Spock attempted to prove that Freud’s theory was accurate and he recruited 21 families to study.&amp;nbsp; As Torrey tells us, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“The results of the study provided no support whatsoever for Freud’s theory and, not surprisingly, little of the data was ever published.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Torrey cites study after study demonstrating the lack of scientific evidence for Freud’s theories. The following lengthy citation from Torrey will shed some light on the subject:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The scientific validity of the oral, anal, and Oedipal stages of development has been reviewed by several researchers over the years.&amp;nbsp; In 1937 Gardner Murphy and his colleagues noted:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Although we have now been exposed for some time to psychoanalytic and other psychiatric&amp;nbsp; hypotheses regarding the effects of birth trauma, weaning trauma, extreme emphasis on early control of urination and defecation, excessive attention from adults, dethronement by a second child, we have almost no objective records of the development of children going through these experiences, or of experiments controlling certain aspects of the problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;Ten years later Harold Orlansky reviewed the pertinent &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;“empirical data bearing on the theory that various features of infant care determine adult personality”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #be3eee;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;and reported that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;“our conclusion has been largely negative.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #be3eee;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;In 1952 Ernest Hilgard et al., although sympathetic to the Freudian point of view, acknowledged in a review that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;“anyone who tries to give an honest appraisal of psychoanalysis as a science must be ready to admit that as it is stated it is mostly very bad science, that the bulk of the articles in its journals cannot be defended as research publications at all.” . . . .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;[Paul] Kline added: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;“Freudian theory, so far as it is dependent on data at all, rests on data which by the criteria of scientific methodology are totally inadequate.&amp;nbsp; These data are, for the most part, the free associations of patients undergoing therapy and their dream reports, and both of these sources are unquantifiable and riddled with subjective interpretation.”. . . .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #105ad1; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;[Hans Eysenck&amp;nbsp; in the 1985 edition of &lt;i&gt;The Experimental Study of Freudian Theories&lt;/i&gt;] likened Freud’s ideas to a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: magenta; letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“medieval morality play”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; populated&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: magenta;"&gt; &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“by such mythological figures as the ego, the id and the superego . . . too absurd to deserve scientific status.”&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; Freud was, Eysenck wrote, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: purple;"&gt;“without doubt a genius not of science but of propaganda, not of rigorous proof but of persuasion, not of the design of experiments but of literary art.&amp;nbsp; His place is not, as he claimed, with Copernicus and Darwin but with Hans Christian Anderson and the Brothers Grimm, tellers of fairy tales.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #be3eee;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;Torrey makes the clear statement that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #1666f9;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“learning and mastery are important components of effective psychotherapy not because the theories being taught have any scientific basis but because people believe in them.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; So any theory is okay, as long as the client believes the theory being espoused by the particular therapist.&amp;nbsp; The problem, of course, is that there are so many of these theories that we should be objective and not judge the theory by beliefs, but&amp;nbsp; whether there is any supporting evidence behind them.&amp;nbsp; Torrey cites a textbook by Redlich and Freedman as saying that if we used only the psych theories that were based on scientific evidence, then&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #1666f9;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“not much would remain, because there are very few truly scientific therapies in our field.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;What is disturbing is that even though we &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; look for evidence over beliefs, this is not the norm in the psych field.&amp;nbsp; Torrey points out that &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“. . . scientific validity of insights and truths is irrelevant in psychotherapy.&amp;nbsp; Learning is a process, and the achievement of mastery is an end in itself.&amp;nbsp; It matters little whether the truths have a small or a large &lt;i&gt;t&lt;/i&gt;; if they are accepted by the client, then they have the same force as religious beliefs have on the devout Muslim, Buddhist, or Christian.&amp;nbsp; As any mullah or priest can tell you, it is the strength of a person’s belief that is the important determinant of whether the person is able to translate belief into action.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; In fact, as if to prove this point, Dave Hunt cites an article from &lt;i&gt;American Journal of Psychiatry&lt;/i&gt; that says,&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“Patients given conventional mental-health treatment in Puerto Rico reported less improvement than those that often went to spiritist healers. . . . [In] spiritist healing. . . mediums receive spirit messages or become possessed by spirits in order to diagnose, counsel or prescribe herbal and ritual remedies.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Now let’s take a look at the psych field in general.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Hunt tells us that &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“A lengthy study appointed by the American Psychological Association (subsidized by the National Science Foundation and involving 80 eminent scholars) concluded in 1979 that psychology is not and cannot be a science.&amp;nbsp; Karl Popper, one of the greatest philosophers of science, declared that psychological theories have ‘more in common with primitive myths than with science.’”&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Hunt also cites Dr. Tana Dineen as saying that if psychologists &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“were to look honestly at what they are doing it would cause them to have doubts about their effectiveness, their worth, their self-image and their career.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“Dr. Arthur Shapiro, clinical professor of psychiatry at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, says: ‘Just as bloodletting was perhaps the massive placebo technique of the past, so psychoanalysis - and its dozens of psychotherapy offshoots - is the most used placebo of our time.’"&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The Bobgans cite Psychologist Roger Mills as saying, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“The field of psychology today is literally a mess.&amp;nbsp; There are as many techniques, methods and theories around as there are researchers and therapists.&amp;nbsp; I have personally seen therapists convince their clients that all of their problems come from their mothers, the stars, their bio-chemical make-up, their diet, their life-style and even the ‘kharma’ from their past lives.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The American Psychiatric Association’s &lt;i&gt;Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders&lt;/i&gt; (DSM) was first published in 1952 with 112 “disorders”&amp;nbsp; compared to six from 100 years earlier.&amp;nbsp; In 1968 the total was 163 and by 1980 it was 224.&amp;nbsp; In 1994 the list had grown to 374 “mental disorders.”&amp;nbsp; Ironically, there has been no scientific validation for this exponential growth of “mental illnesses.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Dave Hunt cites past president of the Association for Humanistic Psychology, Lawrence LeShan, as suggesting &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“that psychotherapy will be known as the hoax of the twentieth century.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #105ad1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Hunt also notes that one of psychology’s most respected leaders, R.D. Laing, gave an&lt;span style="color: #105ad1;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“opinion that &lt;i&gt;not even one&lt;/i&gt; ‘fundamental insight into relations between human beings [had] resulted from a century of psychotherapy.’”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The psych field has no scientific support for any of their theories, and yet the field is promoted as authoritative when discussing human behavior.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6043971967398769903-8917086274752277461?l=watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/feeds/8917086274752277461/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6043971967398769903&amp;postID=8917086274752277461' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8917086274752277461'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6043971967398769903/posts/default/8917086274752277461'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2011/11/psychological-method-vs-christianity_11.html' title='The Psychological Method vs. Christianity - Part 4'/><author><name>Glenn E. Chatfield</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMhZimrJ4dU/Tj26EemobBI/AAAAAAAACBk/gSMcMN1C-FE/s220/2006-11-20.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YRTmGFRFtk0/Tr1a_11eVQI/AAAAAAAACYc/8pzhsSeaR3o/s72-c/Psych.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6043971967398769903.post-3469707593770695896</id><published>2011-11-10T12:13:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-11-10T12:13:58.920-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psychology'/><title type='text'>The Psychological Method vs. Christianity - Part 3</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nv0QjCDlG2c/TrwUWRHdkDI/AAAAAAAACYI/Ra_6844M9AE/s1600/Psych.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nv0QjCDlG2c/TrwUWRHdkDI/AAAAAAAACYI/Ra_6844M9AE/s400/Psych.jpg" width="347" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Today’s episode will conclude our look at the ideology behind the roots of the “psych” fields.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Albert Ellis:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;Albert Ellis was an avowed atheist who considered Christianity a cause of mental illness.&amp;nbsp; The Bobgans state that, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;“Atheism is the controlling philosophy behind Ellis’s theory.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Ellis described faith in God as an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“irrational belief,”&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;and his beliefs about religion are brought to bear in several citations from his works by the Bobgans:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp; “The very essence of most organized religions is the performance of masochistic, guilt-soothing rituals, by which the religious individual gives himself permission to enjoy life.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp; “Religiosity, to a large degree, essentially is masochism; and both are forms of mental sickness.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp; “If one of the requisites for emotional&amp;nbsp; health is acceptance of uncertainty, then religion is obviously the unhealthiest state imaginable: since its prime reason for being is to enable the religionist to believe in a mystical certainty.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp; “One of his highly human, and utterly fallible, traits is that he has the ability to fantasize about, and to strongly believe in, all kinds of nonhuman entities and powers such as devils, demons, and hells, on the one hand, and angels, gods, and heavens, on the other hand.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp; “Relying on God, or supernatural spirits or forces, or on fanatical cults, may well become an obsessive-compulsive disturbance in its own right and lead to immense harm to other people and to oneself.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp; “[REBT] employs a large variety of evocative-emotive and behavioral-motorial methods of helping troubled individuals change their basic irrational values and philosophies and acquire more sensible, joy-producing and pain-minimizing ideas. . . it is exceptionally hard-headed, persuasive, educational, and active-directive and because it straightforwardly attacks many of the sacred myths, superstitions, and religiosities that are so prevalent among human beings.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;Now that I have mentioned REBT, let’s see just what that is.&amp;nbsp; Ellis claimed that people’s &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“psychological problems arise from their misperceptions and mistaken cognitions about what they perceive”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt; and from their emotional responses to them.&amp;nbsp; His particular therapy theory is called “Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy” (REBT), which was formerly called “Rational-Emotive Therapy” (RET), and is supposed to emphasize a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #1666f9;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“deep philosophical change.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The Bobgans sum up Ellis’ theory as follows:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;The ABC’s of REBT are appealing both in their simple explanation for complex behavior and in the truth they seem to reflect.&amp;nbsp; Ellis’s REBT explanation for human behavior is (1) that emotional problems come from the person making himself disturbed through irrational beliefs and (2) that the person can make himself undisturbed through the ABC’s of REBT, that is, through admitting his feelings and then exploring what irrational beliefs are causing them and then by changing his beliefs.&amp;nbsp; The following is a brief outline of Ellis’s ABC’s:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A.&amp;nbsp; “Activating Experience.”&amp;nbsp; Other expressions used by Ellis for this category are: “Activity,” “Action” or “Agent,” also referred to as “Adversities.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;B.&amp;nbsp; “The individual’s Belief System,” which includes “irrational Beliefs” and “rational Beliefs.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;C.&amp;nbsp; “Emotional Consequences,” either “rational Consequences” or “irrational Consequences.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;D.&amp;nbsp; “Dispute the irrational Beliefs.”&amp;nbsp; The therapist disputes the client’s “irrational Beliefs” and guides the client to dispute his own “irrational Beliefs” for himself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; min-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;E.&amp;nbsp; “Effects,” also called “functioning Effects,” which are the “cognitive Effect” and “behavioral Effect.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Ellis contended that circumstances themselves (A) do not cause “dysfunctional Consequences” (C), but that the person himself causes his own painful emotions through his “irrational Beliefs” (B).&amp;nbsp; Thus he needs to have his thinking straightened out through “disputing” (D) his “irrational Beliefs” (B) and replacing them with “rational Beliefs” (B).&amp;nbsp; This process is to bring about both “cognitive Effects” and “behavioral Effects” (E).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Although this system has some similarities to Biblical teaching, it is in reality far from it and, like all the other systems, places self as the focus of life.&amp;nbsp; Ellis said,&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“Unlike the orthodox psychoanalytic and the classical behaviorist psychologies, rational-emotive therapy squarely places man in the center of the universe and of his own emotional fate and gives him almost full responsibility for choosing to make or not make himself seriously disturbed. . . .&amp;nbsp; Moreover, when he unwittingly and foolishly &lt;i&gt;makes&lt;/i&gt; himself disturbed by devoutly believing in irrational and in unvalidatable assumptions about himself and others, he can almost always &lt;i&gt;make himself&lt;/i&gt; undisturbed again, and can do so often - if he utilizes rational-emotive procedures.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; He also stated, &lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;“REBT acknowledges that a belief in religion, God, mysticism, Pollyannaism, and irrationality may at times help people.&amp;nbsp; But it also points out that such beliefs often do much more harm than good and block a more fully functioning life.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;The whole point of REBT is the client’s acceptance of himself as he is, no matter what sort of person he is.&amp;nbsp; The client is to just feel good about himself, and the theory at the bottom line is no more than hedonism.&amp;nbsp; Right and wrong are personal concepts and what is right for you is what makes you acceptable, while what is wrong for you needs to be “disputed” away.&amp;nbsp; It is a very man-centered philosophy. &amp;nbsp; As the Bobgans point out, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #105ad1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue;"&gt;“What Ellis’ theory boils down to is this: The human is worthy because he exists.&amp;nbsp; God does not exist.&amp;nbsp; Therefore the human worth exceeds God’s worth.&amp;nbsp; This anti-god doctrine controls and colors every part of his theory.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Arthur Janov:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Arthur Janov is the developer of the “Primal Scream” therapy method.&amp;nbsp; This therapy is heavily dependent on Freud’s teachings, as well as a world view dependent on evolution.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: blue; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;“According to Janov, as the child grows he has a dilemma between being himself and conforming to his parents’ expectations.&amp;nbsp; During this developmental period, the child accumulates pain from the injuries of unmet needs, such as not being fed when hungry, not being changed when wet, or being ignored when needing attention.&amp;nbsp; Primal pain occurs as the result of the conflicts between self-need and parental expectation.&amp;nbsp; Through the process of growth as conflicts continue to occur, the accumulation of primal pain results in what Janov calls the ‘Primal Pool of Pain.’&amp;nbsp; When the pool gets deep enough, just one more incident supposedly pushes the child into neurosis.&amp;nbsp; This single significant incident is labeled the ‘major Primal Scene.’ . . . It is at this point that the child finally gives up the idea of being himself in order to gain his parents’ love.&amp;nbsp; In the process of gaining approval, the child supposedly seals off his real feelings and becomes an unreal self.&amp;nbsp; Janov calls this disassociation from one’s feelings ‘neurosis.’&amp;nbsp; Janov teaches that the primal scene occurs between the ages of five and seven and is buried in the unconscious. According to Janov, the individual builds a network of defenses against even the awareness that the pain is there and he develops a life style that hides the origin of pain and merely releases the tension caused by the pain, but he is not able to eliminate it.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 15.0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal 'Times New Roman'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-spa
