GOOD
Where Have All The Good Men Gone?
Were the days of Genesis 1 really 24-hour days? Definitely.
Annihilation or Eternal Conscious Punishment? The doctrine of Hell.
We Need to Be Reminded Once Again that Jesus Was Not a Palestinian. The Muslims and their supporters keep making this lying claim. Here’s ammunition to refute them.
UGLY
Liberal theology is just secular humanism using theological terms. Francis Schaeffer.
The Episcopal Church is an excellent example of what Schaeffer was pointing to.
“David”—a movie. When Mormons are in charge, don’t be surprised if it’s fowled up.
John Piper encouraged Somali fraud scandal—and more problems.
Shawn Bolz Is One Cog in the False Prophetic Wheel: A Conversation with Justin Peters
Bill Johnson & Bethel’s #1 Heresy: The Kenosis
Here’s a longer article examining Bethel, demonstrating that Christians should have noting to do with Bill’s Johnson heresy and blasphemy.
Mike Signorelli definitely needs to be avoided.
Jen Wilkin—again! Only the biblically ignorant will follow her.
Kenneth Copeland continued to prove he’s a minion of Satan. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was proved to be demon-possessed. And yet people still follow him!
Hi Glenn, I was interested in the 6 literal days of creation and had seen Ham's piece on this.
ReplyDeleteIt is something I have changed my mind on from re-reading the text of Genesis. I think it is clear that the heavens and the earth together with the element water existed before the first 'commandment' 'Let there be light'. This means the bible does not date the age of the universe and earth - neither old nor young! But my opinion initially changed when I considered the creation of man on day six, and its expansion in chapter 2. I thought with all that happened in a single day we are not meant to take it literally. Unless it all happened at breakneck speed.
It's true the expression evening and morning are used, but this could map to the audience's working week where they work in the day. It might also emphasise the binary motif of light and dark that is found in the chapter, rather than be a marker of time.
I also considered that the heavenly Eden, the angels and the fall of Satan had occurred before the foundation of the earth, as the sons of God, who are angels in the OT, sang for joy then. They may even explain the 'us' when God said 'Let us make man'. This would explain how the tempter serpent, whom we know as Satan, already existed in his fallen state so soon after man was created.
In the Wednesday bible study group we have just started doing the first 11 chapters of Genesis. What I particularly liked last Wednesday when we started was I could discuss my change of view with someone who holds to a literal 6 day creation with no hint of discord or a need to fall out over it. It's not a salvation issue.
I might also add that talking with unbelievers in the UK Ham's dogmatic stance on this is a major stumbling block to getting anyone to even listen to the gospel, as they consider that you have to commit intellectual suicide in order to exercise faith.
I shall be very interested to see how our bible study goes over the next few weeks!
Ken B
Hi Ken,
ReplyDeleteI disagree. God as a creator spoke and it happened. Six literal days. But I don't argue about it.
I also disagree with your statement about Ken Ham dogmatic stance being a stumbling block. You just need to demonstrate that evolution is impossible and believing in THAT is intellectual suicide.
If they can't accept the six days then how can they accept any miracle?
Hi Glenn, thanks for the reply. I deliberately didn't mention evolution as that played no part in reconsidering Genesis, whilst attempting as far as possible not to have presuppositions which were 'literal'. These really can mean you find what you are looking for.
DeleteI was able to discuss this amicably with someone who diasagreed, but this is in Germany, and although my German is pretty fluent, it is not native speaker, and I was frustrated by not always being able to say exactly what I mean. I've read about this in English. It was also frustrating that the person I was talking to wasn't really listening, and his presuppositions were dictating how he understands the text. So I did get a bit wound up!!
Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis are absolutely right to defend Genesis, but not to insist their interpretation has the same authority as scripture. This is bad apologetics, especially with a UK audience, and I speak with considerable experience of this. It is an unnecessary stumbling block.
I also became aware recently that the modern young earth movement had its origins (sorry!) in a revelation supposedly given to Ellen G White of Adventist fame around 1874, who had a vision of a literal six day creation and global flood. This was taken up by SDA George McCready Price who invented flood geology despite not being scientificaly qualified, which in turn found its way into Morris and Whitcomb's The Genesis Flood (which I read years ago) and subsequently morphed into the creation ministries from the 70's onwards. It's not difficult to check this, and it came as quite a shock. Until the 1970's the AiG view was certainly not the norm.
Anyway I can appreciate you not wanting to get into arguments about this, they can often generate more heat than light, but my final liberation from Calvinism came about by looking again at the text and discovering Calvinist distinctives were not actually there. So questioning presuppositions can be a good thing!
Ken B
Do not click on the article by Ken Ham. You'll be mislead badly by it, folks.
ReplyDeleteCowardly Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYou obviously disagree with Scripture and accept the "science" of evolution, etc. YOU are the one who is misled.
Hi Ken,
ReplyDeleteIt is NOT Ken Ham's and AIG's interpretation, it is what the Bible says. And Christians long before White believe in 6-day creation.
The Bible plainly states, in Genesis that it was 6 days, and if that isn't good enough then one has to explain Exodus 20:11 where it explicitly states: "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day."
This was given as the reason man is to work six days and rest the 7th.
Hi Glenn, when I read my reply on here I thought I hope I haven't overdone it!
ReplyDeleteAs an epilogue by coincidence Ken Ham has just done a piece on YT regarding the creation and fall of Satan, which as you know is what in part led me out of a literal days view. I gave him a fair hearing and he made some good points, but I still find it hard to take that God created the heavenly host, formed the divine council, then within a few days Satan fell and existed on earth in the form of the tempter. Although possible it's too short for my mind!
Ken B
Hi Ken,
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm of the opinion that God can call into being anything by just doing it, not needing any time to do so.